well, i've been saving my money and stuff for a new computer. but i don't know what to get. i want something fast, a decent amount of space, and not too amazingly expensive. but i don't know if i should get a mac or pc.

i usually do school work on my computer along with going online. i also download music online. so if i were to go with a mac, i'd need to find something like kazaa that's mac compatible. i also do web graphics and sites and stuff... PLUS there's an entire network system in my house for the cable internet.. and i don't know if a mac would be compatible with it.

any info? suggestions?

I'd go with PC. The macs I use at school are so sloooow. And my friends say they can't stand they're macs. PCs usually come with alot of space, and alot of programs go with pcs.

I agree, get the PC, the only thing with Mac is they look nice, but PC do a awsome work. I as well do graphics and most progs arn't so good with Mac. So go wit PC.

I HATE Macs! There isn't a word that can express my loating of them. You'd have to be insane or have lived under a rock, in a box or in a chicken coop for your entire life to buy one! PC's are fast, reliable, make awsome graphics, loyal, trustworth and housebroken. Go with a PC!

Originally posted by Rosekeet
PC's are fast, reliable, make awsome graphics, loyal, trustworth and housebroken.

Housebroken? :lol:

I also do have expierences with macs. They do crash often, and can be sloooooooooooooow. PCs are the best, and give the best results.

I would go w/ PC tho Macs do look cooler!
In the flyers a powerful PC sells for cheaper than a G4 700mHz Mac and that's pretty fast for a Mac...
i don't think i'm making sense!
but get a PC...they're more powerful!

I have a few friends that will beg to differ from the opinions here. But I'm on a PC, but I wouldn't turn my head away without giving a decent try on a Mac.

I am a PC girl myself =)

you can always buy a sony vaio:)

I'd say it depends on these factors (I won't give a straight opinion on one or the other because it depends heavily on the circumstances)

- how much money you have saved. PCs tend to be cheaper.

- what computer you have right now...or what computer your parents have or what other kind you have at home already...if you have one. I'd say buy the kind you already have so they can network and exchange information, making it easier for you. If you are planning to have only that computer in your household, you can rule out this factor.

- what you plan to do with it. If you are planning to burn lots of CDs, or you plan to watch lots of movies, or make lots of graphics. Macs are better if you like watching and making movies and also downloading and listening to music. PCs are better for graphics because a lot more software is compatible with PCs, so you can downloads loads more programs.



sidenote...I've read that Macs don't crash as often as PCs because *correct me if I'm wrong* their platform was developed more similarly to Linux, which has minimal or no crashing. The fact that some of you thought it crashed more, maybe means you used older versions?

erroca, you're right Macs don't crash/have errors like a Win OS based computer does.

My friend still has his first Mac, and he bought it over 10 years ago, still runs, works great etc. PCs that I have bought in the past, haven't lasted 3 years. =o\

These are my opinions. I'm sure whatever decision you make, will be the best one for you. Good luck :)

epolady is right..
I think Mac is more expensive, though.
Whatever you think would be best for you, works.

Originally posted by epolady
erroca, you're right Macs don't crash/have errors like a Win OS based computer does.
*COUGH* linux and beos.... :D *cough*

get a mac, be legal, buy the music you want on cd's. you will get more pc for your money but unless you are willing to spend at least £1500 your going to end up with a nasty beige case, beige monitor... go the mac route and go actually spend money on cds rather than ripping the artists off. :)

Macs are more expensive and there are more programs available for PCs, but it really depends on what you plan to use it for. For all you PC 'n' Windows junkies, you guys need to check out Mac OS X. This is what the New York Times had to say about the newest version:

Mac OS 10.2 Reviewed
By DAVID POGUE

WHEN Apple unveiled its Mac OS X operating system a couple of years ago, the company's chief executive, Steven P. Jobs, explained that it offered two important benefits. First, Mac OS X (pronounced "ten") rests on a superstable, industrial-strength foundation called Unix. Second, Mac OS X is so beautiful, "you just want to zzzz it."
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Many Mac fans weren't so sure they even wanted to touch it. Yes, Mac OS X is virtually crashproof. (In fact, one command tells you, in months, days and hours, how long your Mac has gone without having to be restarted — a statistic that early adopters eagerly compared online.) But there was a price for this stability: a long list of beloved Mac OS 9 features had been moved around, stripped down or eliminated in Mac OS X, and the new system wasn't nearly as fast as Mac OS 9.

By way of reassurance, Apple kept repeating that Mac OS X was a clean slate, a thrilling new canvas for software artists. Just wait, went the refrain, the best is yet to come.

This Saturday, Apple will release a new version that emphatically proves its point: Mac OS X version 10.2, nicknamed Jaguar. (The price is $129, or free with new computers. If you bought Mac OS X after July 17, the upgrade is $20.) Don't be fooled by the small increase in the version number. This is a polished, innovative and — if such a term can be applied to something as nerdy as an operating system — exciting upgrade.

Apple says that Jaguar has more than 150 new features, including a few returning favorites from Mac OS 9. But especially for people with older Macs, speed is the only one they really care about, and Mac OS X has it in spades. It's generally as fast as Mac OS 9 was, and often faster.

Among the 149 remaining features, Sherlock 3 is one of the most useful. It's a minibrowser designed to summon specific kinds of useful Web information, like local movie times, stock prices, businesses (that is, a national Yellow Pages), language translations, airline schedules. Each set of search results comes dressed up with multimedia goodies: the trailers of the movies you look up, maps and driving directions for the businesses, flight-progress maps.

Of course, anyone with a little patience can turn up this kind of information using an ordinary Web browser. But Sherlock's highly targeted approach eliminates the hunting around, the waiting and, by the way, the ads.

Apple also endowed 10.2 with some impressive Windows compatibility features. For example, Macs and Windows PC's on the same network now "see" each other's icons automatically. It's an unexpected breeze to copy files back and forth, open documents on each other's machines, and so on — no technical prowess required.

This kind of interspecies computer communication used to require $150 worth of add-on software. Having it built right in represents a giant step toward the end of the Mac-Windows cold war. (At least it does from a technological standpoint. The cocktail party clashes of Mac and Windows devotees will probably go on forever.)

Plenty of other big-ticket features appear in 10.2: iChat, an instant-messaging program that's compatible with AOL Instant Messenger; a surprisingly effective junk-mail filter in Apple's Mail program; a new "clean install" option that lets you reinstall Mac OS X without having to erase the hard drive; a convenient Search bar at the top of every window; desktop backdrop photos that can change at regular intervals, smoothly fading from one to the next; a calculator that offers not only scientific functions but also unit conversions and even up-to-the-minute currency conversions. Version 10.2 also introduces Rendezvous, a behind-the-scenes networking technology that will someday permit computers, printers, palmtops and other gizmos to find and communicate with one another instantly, with no setup or configuring whatsoever.

But if you're the kind of person who gets satisfaction from, say, the hushed thump of a Lexus car door closing, it's the little things in Jaguar, the grace notes, that may mean the most in everyday work. For example, you not only get keyboard shortcuts for every important folder on your machine, but they're all consistent and easy to remember: it's always Shift-Command plus A for the Applications folder, F for Favorites, H for your Home folder, and so on.

Mac OS 9's "spring loaded" folder feature is back, too. It lets you move any icon into a folder inside a folder inside a folder, all with a single dragging motion. As long as you keep the mouse button pressed, folder icons spring open as your cursor touches them. Finally, when you release the mouse, they all close neatly shut behind you. You can't help wishing that FedEx packages, dresser drawers and attic boxes worked the same way.

Apple, long a victim of idea theft by Microsoft, saw no reason not to borrow (and improve on) a few good ideas from Windows XP, too. Text in every program exhibits the fine, smooth edges of magazine type, rather than appearing composed of individual tiny pixels. You can now view file names to the right of their icons, rather than underneath, in effect creating multiple columns of files in each window. Beneath each icon name, 10.2 can add a bonus information line of blue text that shows you the dimensions of a picture, the duration of a movie or sound, or how many files are inside a folder. This sweet engineering gesture saves you the trouble of opening the file or folder to find out what's inside.

So what's the bottom line? If you're among the 23 million Mac fans who have been watching the skies for a sign that it's safe to upgrade to X, version 10.2 is it. Most of the big-name programs are now available in OS X versions (Microsoft Office, America Online, Photoshop, Quicken), most of the kinks have been worked out, and there's no longer a speed penalty.

If you're a Windows person — the target of Apple's switch campaign — you may not be so easily seduced. Yes, Mac OS X is fast, fluid and light-years better working with pictures, movies and music. But PC's are still cheaper than Macs (at least in desktop models), and software titles are more plentiful. In hard economic times, some people are sure to find those points more persuasive than elegance, beauty and logical design.

On the other hand, Apple could afford to point out a few larger issues that rarely come up in the Mac-Windows debate. For example, while viruses are an expensive, exasperating fact of life in Windows, not a single one yet affects Mac OS X (knock on silicon).

Furthermore, Apple is not Microsoft — that's the understatement of the year — and isn't nearly so Big Brotherish. There's no 25-digit serial number to type into a new Mac before you can use it, as on a new PC. Mac OS X imposes no copy protection, no Windows XP-style activation process and no risk of being locked out of your own PC if you upgrade too many of its components. Nor does Mac OS X ever interrupt you with little balloons that nag you to sign up for Passport, .NET or some other Microsoft database. Mac people rarely feel like they're living in the persistent, lurking shadow of a software company.

Jaguar isn't perfect. The online help is abysmal, a few minor bugs remain, and Mac loyalists who already paid $129 for Mac OS X 10.0 or 10.1 may resent having to pay another $129 to stay current. Even so, Mac OS X 10.2 is the best-looking, least-intrusive and most thoughtfully designed operating system walking the earth today. No, you don't want to zzzz it. But you're delighted that you installed it — and for a hunk of software in this day and age, even that's quite an achievement.

(Mods: sorry if this is too long, or "advertising", or whatever. ;-)) To check out what "switchers" -- people who have switched from a PC to a Mac -- are saying, check out this (http://www.apple.com/switch/) site. Hey, I'm not biased... ;-)

I would definitley go with PC because a lot of software out there doesn't support macs. Sure, macs look awesome (I LOVE THE MICE!), but they aren't very useful, it that's the word.

Originally posted by Someone1
I would definitley go with PC because a lot of software out there doesn't support macs. Sure, macs look awesome (I LOVE THE MICE!), but they aren't very useful, it that's the word.
macs have just about everything unless you like to play lots of games - quake plays like a dream but there arent many other intensive games and a lot of the free apps you can get for windows are not available. there are no viruses though so its a much easier working environment :)

PC all the way ;)

:o Well, I know everyone dont want my opinion, but I'd say PC still.. I mean, Netscape has alot of.."Disables" when it comes to Javascript, DHTML, etc.. So it depends. Are you going to like make a website on it?

Originally posted by Ayosu_Ling
:o Well, I know everyone dont want my opinion, but I'd say PC still.. I mean, Netscape has alot of.."Disables" when it comes to Javascript, DHTML, etc.. So it depends. Are you going to like make a website on it?
macs have interent explorer and there are loads of cool features it can do that are just general features of the mac environment which you cant do in windows (i cant really describe them in words... anyone who has used both will know what i mean :))

mac definatley...the desktops look nice AND it has cool programs like photoshop, illustrator and it practically never freezes...unlike some comps *cough*windows*cough*

well, i've been saving my money and stuff for a new computer. but i don't know what to get. i want something fast, a decent amount of space, and not too amazingly expensive. but i don't know if i should get a mac or pc.

i usually do school work on my computer along with going online. i also download music online. so if i were to go with a mac, i'd need to find something like kazaa that's mac compatible. i also do web graphics and sites and stuff... PLUS there's an entire network system in my house for the cable internet.. and i don't know if a mac would be compatible with it.

any info? suggestions?



Mac are now compatable with Windows. Macs just don't have the problems windows have.......constant crashing etc. Macs also don't have the virus problems windows are always fighting with....even when using updated virus software. Most everyone i know....except a few who use Macs use Windows. They seem to always be fighting with their computers........yes always. My mac has been running 24-7 for over 2 years now with no problems. I run a lot of demanding programs all at one with no problems. I have a powerbook G4 with a processor of
667 MHz and 768 MB of Ram. Small indeed at todays standards, but it runs circles around the much larger Windows based machines. I can just imaging how nice the larger newer Macs run now. I run Panther....10.3.9 at this time.
I am a long time Mac user starting with OS 7.5 on a older tower type Computer I kept rebuilding to keep updated with the times. Even this old horse always ran better than comparable Windows based machine of way back then.
Buy a Mac and get rid of the headachs of dealing with Windows. If windows is needed you can always Run Virtual PC then install XP pro. There you go...now you got your Windows back and a mac will run Windows better thana PC will. I know I run Windows XP Pro on my mac for college. That is the only time I bother with it. I have Office 2004 for my Mac and I'd rather run it in the mac side than on the Windows side. Windows side is Office 2003.
Well there is my view.
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