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SUPER RP06
12-17-2004, 12:41 AM
I watched the news today and saw that a new Oshma bin Laden audiotape has purportly been made. It has been posted on Arabic websites "referencing the December 6 attack on the American consulate in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia".

This is an article from CNN.com

Purported new bin Laden tape criticizes Saudi royals

Recording refers to recent attack in Jeddah

Thursday, December 16, 2004 Posted: 3:04 PM EST (2004 GMT)

(CNN) -- A new audiotape purportedly from Osama bin Laden showed up on Arabic Web sites Thursday, referring to the December 6 attack on the U.S. Consulate in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia.

The voice on the tape says instability in Saudi Arabia is due to the kingdom's regime.

"While the struggle in Saudi Arabia appears to be internal, it is part of the struggle between believers and nonbelievers" of Islam, the speaker said.

CIA officials said Thursday they had a "high degree of confidence" that the voice on the 70-minute-long, muffled tape is that of the al Qaeda leader.

Near the end of the tape, the speaker asks for God's blessings for "our brothers who stormed the American Consulate in Jeddah."

"We pray to Allah to accept the mujahedeen who stormed the U.S. Consulate in Jeddah as martyrs," the speaker says.

The tape also offers deep criticism of the Saudi royal family.

"Millions are suffering poverty, while riyals [Saudi currency] pour into the hands of the Saudi royal family," the speaker says.

Al Qaeda expert Paul Eedle, who said the voice on the tape appears to be that of bin Laden, said the main message of the recording is a call for the overthrow of the Saudi royal family.

"It's an enormously detailed piece of invective against the Saudi royal family and against other Arab rulers accusing them of being puppets of what Osama bin Laden calls a crusaders-Zionist alliance led by America, which is seeking to steal the wealth and occupy the lands of Muslims," Eedle said.

Eedle said bin Laden may have wanted to lend his voice to Thursday's planned protests in Riyadh and Jeddah against the Saudi royal family, which were organized by the Saudi opposition movement based in London.

Terrorism expert Peter Bergen said the 10-day period between the Jeddah attack and the release of the tape is the fastest turnaround that he can recall between a news event and a communication from bin Laden.

"It indicates to me a certain degree of security," Bergen said on CNN's "Live Today."

"After all, the chain of custody of these tapes is the one way to find bin Laden. He obviously feels secure enough that he can release a number of these tapes."

The last message from the al Qaeda leader came in a videotape appearing October 29 on the Arab-language television network Al-Jazeera. His top deputy, Ayman al-Zawahiri, spoke in an audiotape that aired November 29 on Al-Jazeera.

Bergen said by his count bin Laden and al-Zawahiri have released 29 messages since the September 11, 2001, attacks on the United States.

"It's extraordinary that the chain of custody of these tapes has not been traced back," Bergen said. "After all, they're releasing these tapes very frequently, on average once every six weeks, yet it seems that American intelligence agencies or other intelligence agencies are not capable of tracing back the source of these tapes."

White House spokesman Scott McClellan said the United States has made significant progress in the war on terrorism, "but the war continues."

"The terrorists will be defeated, and the civilized world will prevail in this global struggle of ideologies," McClellan said.

A Saudi militant group with ties to al Qaeda took responsibility for the Jeddah attack, posting its claim on several Islamist Web sites often used by militants.

Five consular employees -- four local staff members and a contract guard -- were killed. Four other local staff members were wounded.

Saudi forces killed three of the gunmen and captured two others, both of whom were wounded, the Saudi Interior Ministry said. One of gunmen later died.

In April, the State Department ordered "nonemergency employees and all dependents of the U.S. Embassy Riyadh and Consulates General Jeddah and Dhahran ... to leave the country" because of security concerns and urged Americans to defer travel to the kingdom.

Al Qaeda-led suicide attacks struck Riyadh housing compounds in May and July 2003, killing 40 people, most of them Muslims.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/12/16/bin.laden.tape/index.html

What is your thoughts about Oshma bin Laden?

SUPER RP06
12-17-2004, 12:49 AM
I got a photo of him!

Click here to see a photo of him. (http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2004/WORLD/meast/12/16/bin.laden.tape/top.bin.laden.ap.jpg)

Cherchezlafemme
12-17-2004, 02:18 AM
it's *Usama(Osama) Bin Laden...


I say it's not in our hands but the hands of a bigger force

salomeyasobko
12-17-2004, 04:14 AM
it's *Usama(Osama) Bin Laden...


I say it's not in our hands but the hands of a bigger force

just to clarify, are you referring to God? or troops from other countries? :hehe:

Munchkin
12-17-2004, 04:37 AM
Hmm, maybe in President Bush's ever so capable hands...dear god I hope not!

tokyo bleu
12-17-2004, 05:56 AM
Will Oshma bin Laden be captured or killed?

Who knows? It's not like President Bush is really doing something about him right now. *Ahem*

Marianne
12-17-2004, 08:54 AM
doubt it. If it comes to that, I think he'll take his own life.

Makar
12-17-2004, 03:57 PM
doubt it. If it comes to that, I think he'll take his own life.
Yeah, he strikes me as the sort who would do that, "pull a Hitler".

Or maybe he'll die of that kidney problem...I mean, wherever he is, it must be difficult to treat it.

ratch26
12-17-2004, 04:44 PM
i think in time he will be caught. i mean technology is getting more and more advanced so how does he expect to keep getting around and about with out anyone twiging. besides if you put the ransom high enough - someone will snitch on him

sisqoluv
12-17-2004, 10:02 PM
Bin, who? Ah, Oshma Bin Forgotten.

I've been wondering about him since 9/11, but I'm glad to know that I'm not the only one.

Inzu
12-17-2004, 10:58 PM
i think in time he will be caught. i mean technology is getting more and more advanced so how does he expect to keep getting around and about with out anyone twiging. besides if you put the ransom high enough - someone will snitch on him

I doubt that anybody close to him would do that. All of those people are fiercely united under their cause, they won't think twice about dying if it means it'll harm the US or other West countries. To them, the cause is wholly justified, and dying that way is granting a one-way ticket to heaven. Even if someone leaks, they're bound to have charges against them as well.

When or if Bin Laden gets caught, I'm going to go with the previous posts regarding suicide. For all he's accomplished, to let himself get caught alive? Kind of.... lame.

SUPER RP06
12-18-2004, 12:23 AM
Ooooooh! We're even at the momment at 3 votes each!

starlet
12-18-2004, 01:12 AM
Sure they'll find him...just before they start the next war...'look, we caught Osama, we know what we're doing...now don't get mad that we're off to bomb Iran, mmkay?'

You get my point, at the moment they arent looking for him, they arent talking about looking for him because it serves no purpose (God forbid we should have been reminded Bush can't find him prior to the election), as soon as it's beneficial for the government to remind us hes still out there...they'll 'find' him.

tokyo bleu
12-18-2004, 01:40 AM
i think in time he will be caught.

LOL.

Sure, he'll be caught after we declare war on Iran, North Korea... and what the hey, everyone else who doesn't like us.

punkinardo
12-19-2004, 07:34 AM
"will oshma bin laden be captured or killed?" ....good question

bejayel
12-19-2004, 11:18 PM
no a chance. bush isnt even trying. He admited it publically once even. I have yet to see the counter video to farenheit 911, but i am sure it wont stop teh way i think about that guy. I feel sorry for you americans. its only a mater of time before you all recieve a little post card in the mail telling you what your number is. Hope you guys enjoy the draft. Just keep in mind, Amricans are the ones whovoted him back in. Somehow though, i am 100% sure that this will all be blamed on Canada...as usual.