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I swear I have the most incompetent 'rents in the world! Not only do they not want to be a part of my life....but they honestly have no idea what really goes on! I'm the only girl out of 3 boys, and you'd think they'd be more interested in my life, but alas, they are not, and It seems as though I am virtually invisible to the world. :(

On top of all that, they don't understand that I have dreams....and every time I try to have a serious conversation with them about my dreams or goals, they turn it into a joke! :(

Lately I've felt so lonely and unwanted...it hurts...very badly. I'm sorry, I had to get all of that out....I've got so much bottled up inside it isnt funny. :(

like what kind of dreams/goals are they?

maybe they just think they don't seem realistic (not saying that makes it ok for them to shrug you off, but still). maybe try to demonstrate to them that you're working toward one of them... I would provide an example, but that really depends on what they are :P

my dreams?....Well for one, my main dream goes against my mothers rules. She forbids me to have anything more then a guy friend...but my hearts deepest desire is to findmy significant other, and I intend to do so, even if it takes years to accomplish.

Another thing...my parents would most likely freak out and disown me if I told them this: They raised me to believe in god...and as a kid I never questioned that...I thought i HAD to believe it or else. But now that I think about it, I really cant believe it, or any other religion for that matter....and if I were to tell my parents that I am now atheist, I'm most certain they'd disown me. :(

so your mom doesn't want you to ever get married?

I don't suppose....but I'm not letting her stop me. I'm sorry, but my dreams are basicly all I have to live for at the moment, forgive me if I sound rude, but nobody is keeping me from reachiing them.

:sad:

maybe you should tell her/both parents.. like "GOSH you are the suckiest parents ever!! why don't you care about what i want/need??? some day i'm going to run away and it's going to be your fault!!"

:P

actually, you should say that, because maybe some anger + feeding them guilt will work.. you never know ;)

and make sure after that you run off to your room and shut the door, so they don't get a chance to say "go to your room".

Oh no Sal, my parents are not like that. :D They seriously dont care what goes on in my life. I once stood in front of my mom, and confronted her about her ignoring me, and guess what she does? She ignored me :P So I just basicly told her "you dont want to be a part of my life now, dont expect to be invited in later"

you know, you can do this thing where you live away from your parents in high school.. you get on welfare, you have to have a job while you go to school and you must have proof that you're living on your own.. but if you do that you can get really good scholarships to colleges..

it'll be tough, living on your own and having a job while at school, but since you seem so eager to learn, and smart, maybe you'll be able to handle it :)

once school starts, ask your counselor more about it and see if you wanna try that..

"you dont want to be a part of my life now, dont expect to be invited in later"
whoah guy! that sounds like something in a movie! lol.. so witty...

you know, you can do this thing where you live away from your parents in high school.. you get on welfare, you have to have a job while you go to school and you must have proof that you're living on your own.. but if you do that you can get really good scholarships to colleges..

it'll be tough, living on your own and having a job while at school, but since you seem so eager to learn, and smart, maybe you'll be able to handle it :)

once school starts, ask your counselor more about it and see if you wanna try that..
It's called emancipation. :D And trust me, I've seriously considered it. But right now I'm just sitting back, finding out who I can trust, and who I should avoid. Might sound mean, but I dont take lighty to having my emotions played with. I have a saying "Hurt me, and you'll wish you were never born" :D

Maybe your parents don't think you're old enough to have a boyfriend. (how old are you btw?) And if believing in God means something to them it would obviously hurt them and worry them that you don't. I wouldn't want to live away from home. Even if they ignore you, you still get free food.

Dream A) Do you have a specific person in mind when you're thinking of this? Chances are they probably think you're too young for anything more than friends. In a few years, that all may change. I mean, you're what... 16? Plenty of time.

As for the second one, it can be tough... I just started refusing to go to church and my mum eventually gave up on me. Now (3 years later) the only time any attempt is made to make me go to church is on Easter/Christmas. Sure my family/friends think I'm wrong to not believe in god, I just shrug it off and ignore them.

If they really and truly don't care about what goes on in your life, they shouldn't care that you might want to be more than friends with someone, or that you don't believe in god. You're kind of contradicting yourself a bit when you say "they don't care about me... but there's this and this they don't want me to do..." :P

Haha, free food, thats funny :D I'm 16, and quite capable of taking care of myself. I make my own meals, do my own laundry, get honor roll grades, learn in my free time, take care of my 6 month old neice, and avoid trouble.

Many girls in my position have resorted to drugs and pregnancy to make them feel better. I dont. My parents dont realize how unhappy I am.

I am certain I could make it on my own, it would be difficult yes, but well worth it in the long run.

meh... ur parents got it good... i do a fraction of what u do... lol.

iunno, staying with your family for the time being would be the best choice in my opinion... *you won't get a computer on welfare.. do they pay for those luxuries?* as for being ignored? talk to your relatives about it. then they'll tell your parents about it, b/c they won't ignore relatives... then maybe you might figure out the reason behind why they ignore you...

i feel your pain. my parents don't know anything about the real world. They thing stupid is a swear word. it isn't!

meh... ur parents got it good... i do a fraction of what u do... lol.

iunno, staying with your family for the time being would be the best choice in my opinion... *you won't get a computer on welfare.. do they pay for those luxuries?* as for being ignored? talk to your relatives about it. then they'll tell your parents about it, b/c they won't ignore relatives... then maybe you might figure out the reason behind why they ignore you...
I've already got my own 'puter. :D heheh, no my relatives are the same way...they all believe "Kids should be seen, not heard" thats bullspit(yes, I cant say the other word). I dont care anymore. I'm not going to try and make them see, if it hasnt worked by now, it never will. So simply put, Im living for my dreams and hopes and nobody is going to stop me from living my life to the fullest.

Your parents might have good reasons for not letting you have a boyfriend.

Considering I've had a boyfriend/liked the same guy for three years straight, and have been hurt many, many times, I can tell you that dating when you're young...well, there's basically no point to it. What're you going to do? You can't marry the guy without parental consent. I guess you could end up pregnant, but that'd wreck your life.

Being friends is a lot easier and more worth it in the long run, even though it does hurt sometimes.

ugh, i know this is so off topic, but Queen of Wise I LOVE your avatar...I just 487 more posts to get one...

I believe you mistunderstood. I havn't got a guy in mind...I'm simply on a search for him. :) I'm not stupid, I wont pick a jerk. :D My brothers were allowed to have girlfriends when they were younger than I am, double standard.

Thats not the point though....thats only a minor issue that bothers me greatly. the point is that they apparently arent parents if they dont even check up on their kid.

well, she doesn't exactly wanna get into a serious relationship NOW, she just wanted to tell her parents that she, at one time or another in her life, would like to meet her special someone... and she wasn't taken seriously.

well, she doesn't exactly wanna get into a serious relationship NOW, she just wanted to tell her parents that she, at one time or another in her life, would like to meet her special someone... and she wasn't taken seriously. Somewhat true. :)

I really just want to find a nice guy who is respectful and caring. I'm literally starved for affection, and just want someone to hold me for hours on end. [/mushy] :D Okay, point and laugh now :D

They think they know what's best for you, but sometimes they don't get your priorities. I think you should stick up to them and make sure they actually LISTEN to you. Also, can't you get affection from someone else? *points and laughs*

I used to think that my parents didn't know a thing about what went on in my life, and then I discovered they knew a whole lot more than they let onto. *shrugs* I'd try talking to them. Respectfully ask them to sit down so you can tell them how you feel. Ask them why they don't take more interest.

If you're only...16?...then that might be why they haven't taken you seriously. You've got lots of time.

:sad: your parents suck, they should be shot! :mad:

not literally, but they're so.. bah. they make me mad and i'm not even related to you!

i'm really sorry.. :( seriously i would do that live-on-your-own thing if i were you. of course your parents would have to sign the disownership papers, which may be just a little too much effort for them, but i think it would be rewarding.. you seem to be very independant as it is so.. at least this way you'll have more freedom, since you're used to the responsibility "thing" already.


i think what some of you aren't getting is that her parents do not care.. they don't want to listen.. i'm sure she's smart enough to try talking to them.

No I've tried sitting them down and talking, they really dont listen. Its okay though, I'm doing perfectly fine without them being overly obsessed with whats going on in my life. It was just a bit of a shock at first, but now I've accepted it, and I'm moving on. They have their reasons...either that or something really weird is going on....but I have my whole life and dreams to think about, and I'm sorry but that comes first before anyone.

Lots of parents are freaky about dating guys, so you really should take that off your list. I read somewhere that something like 70% of girls graduating high school have never been on a real date. I mean, it seems like everyone dates, but we don't know that, and alot of times their parents don't know if they do date.

They probably don't mean to ignore you. My mom does that. I'll say something, but apparently she was thinking about something else, and she either won't say anything back or start asking me something midsentence. It's irritating, but I don't let it bother me much, and remind myself that she has alot to more to think about than I do. And you said you were one of four children right? I'm an only child and I get ignored sometimes, so I can imagine it for you. They really shouldn't ignore you, but it probably isn't intentional. Like someone else said, tell relatives, and it will eventually get back to your parents, and they'll get the point.

You ruined the whole "they don't care" thing yourself, by saying they set rules for you. Parents don't set rules if they don't care. The fact that they don't want you to date really proves that they care, because it shows that they don't want you to get hurt.

As for the religion thing, I've never gone through that because my Mom and I really don't discuss it that much, and believe pretty much the same as her, but you really should tell them. If they care, they won't disown you, because that would be putting you endanger, if they don't they won't disown you, because why would it matter to them? I think your safe either way, and if your uncomfortable going to church, and don't believe any of it, then you should just not go.

I wouldn't move out. It's just easier to go to school when you don't have to worry about bills and such. Everyone I've ever known to move out, didn't graduate high school. Besides, think of everything you really do get free. Food, electric, gas, water, and everything else parents pay for. And when you talk to the counsellor about it, unless you act like you have a really bad homelife (I'm talking no food in the house, everythings dirty, blah, blah, blah) then the counsellor gonna advise highly against it.

CB, you didn't read my other posts. :) Their rules are double standards. It doesnt matter though, I'm not going to let it bother me. Let them ignore me, I'm moving on. Only 2 years, then I'm free :D

Even though I've already outruled emancipation, I believe I would be quite capable of taking care of myself, very difficult, and alot of effort...but right now I really just want to wait it out and see what happens.

There are a lot of double standards in every household I've ever known. It's just the way things are. Most kids in a family are different, and thus there are different rules for each child. My sister is ten years younger than I, but she gets away with a lot of stuff that I didn't used to get away with.

yes, I did, but alot of parents are stupid like that. And I didn't say you were uncapable, I said it would be easier to sit tight. In fact, I pointed out that you could probably pull it off.

lol i think i'm getting more frustrated than you, queen.

i really don't think you guys are getting what she's saying, or maybe i'm not. i don't think its normal for her parents to treat her the way they do.. i don't think this is the occasional "mom doesn't notice her daughter is speaking to her," or the parents are overprotective when it comes to boyfriends, or maybe they're disappointed with her not having the same religious beliefs.. because all together, and when it's as frequent/constant as queen said, it's not right..


i hate it when people say "ahh your problem isn't really a problem" in rants.. the point of rants is not to be told you shouldn't get worked up about it, the point is to let it out and.. yeah.

I'm too scared to actually go through with something like that anyway. I've got too many insecurites. :(

But if you're curious to know the source of my ranting, here are some things that might interest a few of you:

-I've not a single friend(offline)
-I'm not allowed to leave my house, unless I'm going somewhere with the family.
-My parents and brothers criticize me for being a computer geek.
-I love school because it is my only escape from all the stress.
-Despite my being a 16 year old girl, I've only ever been to the mall 3 times in my entire life :D lol (thought I'd add in a funny one, to lighten up things)



EDIT: Thank you Sal. I appreciate your backing me up. :)

yes, I get that they've taken it to an extreme, but seriously, my mom completely ignored me for like a month and then got mad at me for ignoring her. She just didn't realize it, and your parents could be doing the same. I'm not saying that has to be it, just that it's possible. And I never said it was just fine and dandy for them to do that, because it isn't. I'm just saying that there's the possibility they don't think about it and have no idea they're doing something wrong.

Maybe you could find a way to make them listen? Like take florescent pink postits and put them all over the house with a message on them like, "QUIT IGNORING ME!!!" Then they might get the point. :D

EDIT: Oh, wow. You can't leave the house? I mean, I have to call when I get where I'm going but...you can't leave the house? And how does one live without the mall. I don't go often, but I've been more than 3 times. Um, yeah, I take back everything I said, except for the postit thing. I still think thats a good idea.

Actaully CB, I went up to my mom once when my brother was cursing at me...my little 9 year old brother, cursing like a sailor, right in front of my mom too. And I said "Are you not going to ask him to stop? Or smack him for cursing?...OR ARE YOU GOING TO SIT AND IGNORE ME AGAIN, LIKE YOU ALWAYS DO"....What I got in response was a quick glance, and total ignoring. :D 'Tis okay though, they've shown me all I need to see to believe it. I'm living my own life, not them. I deicide where I go from here. :)

so your mom doesn't want you to ever get married?

why wouldnt she be able to get married? hey, maybe if they thougth you were more mature they wuld let you have a boyfriend...trust me, i use to scream at my parents and stuff, (im also religious..catholic) and that didnt ework at all, but i changed, and know they let me have boyfriends and they will let me go to partys till 2 am, because they trust me, and they know that i wont do something im not suppose to, maybe if you show them that you are mature, they will let you do more things. If your mom wont listen to you, write her a letter to let her know how you feel. Your mom loves you, trust me, she alays will no matter what. Maybe it will hurt her a lot to know that yopu dont believe in God, but theres nothing she can do about it.

By the way, if it werent for your parents you wouldnt be hered in the first place!! :buckt:

I've tried just about everything there is to do. All I have now is my dreams, and I'm going for them regardless of my parents. I know alot of you are probably laughing or shrugging at this, but you cannot possibly understand it fully unless you are me. :)

Thanks for listening though, It feels really good to know I can get it all out and not be criticized for it .:)

i think YOU should smack your brother instead of waiting for your mom to ;) haha i would've already. violence always works for me, especially when i'm angry and no one will do anything about it.

that's probably a really bad philosophy but your family has to learn that you won't just "take it" eventually, eh? and even if they don't care, at least cause them pain [physical or not] for not being good/nice/decent.

-I'm not allowed to leave my house, unless I'm going somewhere with the family.

yay! i'm not the only one! lol. hmm... try talking to your dad... i haven't heard you say nething bout talking to ur dad, but then if ya already have.... the next time they ignore you, wave your hand in their face or snap ur fingers right up to their face.. . if thy don't look happy... run!

My dad...he's only home at night and I only see him for maybe 3 or 4 hours, and what my mom says goes for the whole house. :P I'm finiished worrying about it. If they really do care, they'll come to me.

Wow..talk to one of your teachers then!

Wow..talk to one of your teachers then!
No, the last thing I need is that. I'm just leaving it alone for now...seeing what happens.

do you have like a really close friend you could talk to??

Not a real friend. I've got an online friend. An older platonic friend, and he knows my situation, hes been there, has helped me greatly. :) I'm okay, I just needed to get all that out of my system.

so, you don't have like any offline friends? I mean, I can count mine on one hand, but you don't have any?

so, you don't have like any offline friends? I mean, I can count mine on one hand, but you don't have any?
Nope.

Poor Queen.

I'm an optimist, so... At least your parents aren't TOO competent, like mine. But seriously, they sound really bad. :( :hug: There has too be somebody you can talk to...

I do have someone to talk to. My buddy in fla. 900 miles away from me, so I know I can trust him not to tell on me :D heheh and he knows what I'm going through.

I'm okay. :)

that's good, that you have someone to talk to. I hope it works out okay. :)

thanks CB...I'll let you know in 2 years. haha :D

Yeah... that is good. :D And you can always talk to us, I guess. :D And of course a little screaming always helps. *coughLPcough*

OH yes...I've already had to charge my cd player twice today...been listening to Chester non-stop since last night. :D He helps me get to sleep at night. :D

Kool, im glad you have someone to talk to... :)

I charge mine up every other day, on average, because I listen to it all day too... :D Although occasionally it's Evanescence, if I need a change. Anyway. Good luck in your next two years *sigh*. I still have four years to go. :P

that must be really terrible to live in yeah... want to have my parents? :P

they don't trust me... they say they do, but i know they don't. they ask "have you done that?" and i answer "yes" and they still go checking it... Things like that. I'm pretty free though, apart from the "not being outside alone in the dark" but i'm not comfortable in that situation anyway so i don't mind one of my parent picking me up after a party or so...

about your belief, i have the same. I was raised with god, have done the 2 things in church you have to do (when being younger... i have no idea how to translate) etc. But when i grew older i had no connection with god. So i told them that i don't really fancy church when it's not nessecary (nessecary things like funeral, wedding etc) and they where pretty fine with it though... but the belief isn't strong in our house... that's a big difference with your house probably.

I just hope everything works out for you queen... i wish we could do more then just 'add our comments' here if you know what i mean. :hug:

Love,
Mirna

yeah, I have four years as well. My mom and I get along fairly well though, and I don't even really plan on leaving her in the dust when I go off to college. I think she's gonna move with me, except she'll have a little apartment, and I'll stay in the dorms. But we've always been kind of close.

I guess we have to stick around LEIA then, to make sure you survive. :D I planning on staying anyway, but now it has purpose! Don't I feel special.

I think you need to realize that you're not the only person in your family.

You said yourself, you have 3 siblings that your parents have to worry about. Your dad at least seems to work a lot, and even when he is home it's probably on his mind. they have a lot of things to worry about (including, but not limited to, some of the things that have been mentioned in this thread- rent/mortgage, other miscellaneous bills, etc.). you're the only girl so they're probably overprotective of you and that's why they don't want you to date.

it seems like you feel sorry for yourself more than anything else. so you don't have any friends. instead of saying 37,000 times online that you have none, go out and make one or two. stand up for yourself for once.

sorry, I should remember not to come into contact with other people when I'm in a bad mood, but I think my little rant does have some basis.

I think you need to realize that you're not the only person in your family.and i think her family needs to realize that she is a part of the family... :rolleyes:

but I think my little rant does have some basis.*over-exaggerated cough* right... *coughcoughcough* :P

*over-exaggerated cough* right... *coughcoughcough* :P
I didn't think so at all.

I didn't think so at all.
wait.. i'm confused... :confused: hahah.. ? :blush:

i think i just killed it, didn't i? :P

From what I understood, Dan stated his opinion and you thought he was overexaggerating, and I'm just agreeing with what he said.

ah i see.

i didn't think he was overexaggerating.. i was overexaggerating my "cough" :buckt: i just didn't really agree with him. i wasn't being entirely serious though.. you see, i'm very physically tired from swim practice so i'm in an odd mood :hehe:

Right, right. My mind misplaced the asterisks :P

Somewhat true. :)

I really just want to find a nice guy who is respectful and caring. I'm literally starved for affection, and just want someone to hold me for hours on end. [/mushy] :D Okay, point and laugh now :D

Cool, that's what I like, but all the girls like that don't put up much of a fight when it comes to dating; care to prove me wrong?

Actually Dude...they dont have to worry about 3 other siblings, because 2 of them are grown men and can take care of themselves. No I do not feel sorry for myself. I thought the point of a rant was to let off some stress.

I'm sorry, but none of you know me, and I don't think it is fair to say things like that.

My parents are not overprotective...they are not even a part of my life. :( As for me and my problem with friends....the way you say it makes it sound so easy to go and and make friends...well it really isnt. I've got so many insecurites and self esteem issues, and not to get into personal things, but people have never done anything for me, except bully me. I'm the geeky girl at my school...the one you'll never catch without a book....so people think its funny to torment me, not just verbally either. My teachers see it going on and they do NOTHING about it!

Anyway, I hope you dont take this the wrong way, I am not intending for it to sound mean at all, but what you said in your post is not what's going on at all. :(

I'd just like to say one thing before I leave for the weekend tonight, put yourself in this scenario: You're extremely depressed from loads of things, stressed out, and feeling so alone and unwanted that it hurts both emotionally and physically. You go downstairs and attempt to talk to mom, she looks at you and then goes back to watching her television show, completely ignoring you. Your siblings do nothing but make fun of you, and not just normal sibling rivalry either....I have done NOTHING to any of my brothers, and they see fit to call me the most horrible names you can call a female.

Anyway, sorry for even posting this thread.I now see the many problems that it may cause, so from now on, I shall keep my petty and pathetic problems to myself :)

EDIT: I'm not vulnerable, if thats what you mean Aussie. :D I have self boundaries and values, and if a guy cannot respect them then he isnt worth my time. :P

As for me and my problem with friends....the way you say it makes it sound so easy to go and and make friends...well it really isnt.
No one said it was easy to make friends. But I'm sure it makes it even more difficult when you lock yourself in your room and whine about it. The more you convince yourself that you have no friends, and it's hard to talk to people, etc, the more it becomes true and you wind up digging your own grave.

No one said they know what you're like. No one claims to. But we are allowed to form our own opinions and, from this thread and numerous discussions in the past, I know I am not the only one that thinks you're attention deprived and looking for that attention here. And there's nothing wrong with that, but you need to tone it down with the, "No one loves me, feel sorry for me" spiel. Which is exactly the front you're putting up, whether you realize it or not.

I'm sorry if you disagree or think I'm attacking you and you can hate me forever, but I feel this needed to be said.

I'm sorry lefty...I don't want people to feel sorry for me at all...I just needed someone to get all of that out to. I keep things inside for so long they just finally burst out at some point.

Sorry if I sound like I'm whining, I'm not, I just felt that you're all nice people here, and you'd listen to me...and I thank you all for even reading this, because most people I try to talk to laugh at me and tell me I'm just a stupid kid.

Anyway, my apologies if I sound like a whiner...I'm just going through a very difficult time right now.

I'm sorry lefty...I don't want people to feel sorry for me at all...I just needed someone to get all of that out to. I keep things inside for so long they just finally burst out at some point.

Sorry if I sound like I'm whining, I'm not, I just felt that you're all nice people here, and you'd listen to me...and I thank you all for even reading this, because most people I try to talk to laugh at me and tell me I'm just a stupid kid.

Anyway, my apologies if I sound like a whiner...I'm just going through a very difficult time right now.

I noe how you feel =D, people who laugh at you probably must have a problem themselves.

Can I just ask everyone a question? Ok I just did lol...but thats not the question in mind..here it is: Does anyone ever feel like nothing they do is good enough?

I mean, I'm an honor roll student, never did drugs, don't smoke, don't drink...don't really get into trouble unless you count fighting with my older brothers(If I dont fight back they torment me worse)....yet my accomplishments seem to go un-noticed. My oldest brother is a former felon...the other older one is a pothead...the younger one is well on his way to being a rude little {bad word}...but I'm the one who does good, and tries to be kind to people, and it feels like I'm doing it all for no reason....

Can I just ask everyone a question? Ok I just did lol...but thats not the question in mind..here it is: Does anyone ever feel like nothing they do is good enough?

I mean, I'm an honor roll student, never did drugs, don't smoke, don't drink...don't really get into trouble unless you count fighting with my older brothers(If I dont fight back they torment me worse)....yet my accomplishments seem to go un-noticed. My oldest brother is a former felon...the other older one is a pothead...the younger one is well on his way to being a rude little {bad word}...but I'm the one who does good, and tries to be kind to people, and it feels like I'm doing it all for no reason....

i really really really really really really REALLY feel your pain!! exept for the older bros, i have an older sister and im basicly her shadow, so anything she achieves i have to try to keep up so i wouldnt be the shame of the family. =[

Yes...you'd think people would be proud that I'm not out doing who knows what with a bunch of weirdos! :D And the funny thing is...I could be out right now, doing whatever I wanted to, and my parents would never know it because they dont suspect me. Not that I would do that *cough*...but still. :D

Anyway...I guess I feel like I need to make a place(no not physically :P) for myself. Something that I can call my own, something original.

Well, I haven't read this whole thread. I don't feel like it :P. But, we all have our down times where we feel like no one cares for us... or wants anything to do with us. But, it is just like that movie a wonderful life... where he wishes he was never born... and then he sees all the bad things that would have happened if he wasn't there. So everyone on earth is important. I am sure you parents do care for you :). They might just not be showing it at the moment. Sometimes I think my sister gets all the attension... and then I notice that is just me trying to make the situation more than it really is... because I am the youngest so I know I get ton of attension. Sorry if I am repeating things... I just really didn't feel like reading it all :P

Yes...you'd think people would be proud that I'm not out doing who knows what with a bunch of weirdos! :D And the funny thing is...I could be out right now, doing whatever I wanted to, and my parents would never know it because they dont suspect me. Not that I would do that *cough*...but still. :D

Anyway...I guess I feel like I need to make a place(no not physically :P) for myself. Something that I can call my own, something original.

keep this in mind queen of wise tat one day you'll be successsful if you keep up ur efforts =D and being corny as i am i believe you will become something and your parents will notice tat you've grown to be someone great! =P

Many people have had not-so-great home lives and turned out to be very happy and successful people. :)
Life is rarely fair, but when it deals you an unfair hand, you have to make the best of it. Much easier said than done, but possible.
To quote a portion of a song by Argent "Hold your head up."
I wish I could be of more encouragemnt to you.

:confusion Parents don't stop worrying about their children after they have grown up and can take care of themselves. :rolleyes: I'll propably worry more after the twins are 18 :lol:

One does not make friends whining about the fact they cannot make them.

I didn't say I cannot. I said it is difficult when one has so many social issues and self insecurites to over come. :)

lol, imagine, 5 pages and all she wanted to do was vent her anger... :) hope yer feeling good queen... feel free to vent whenever ya like. :) lets hope it oesn't reach 5 pages lol... queen had to explain why she made the thread like 5 times ahaha/

:confusion My social issues and self insecurites are worse then you social issues and self insecurites :P And I have friends

:confusion My social issues and self insecurites are worse then you social issues and self insecurites :P And I have friends
Can you prove yours are worse? :D j/k...

:confusion My social issues and self insecurites are worse then you social issues and self insecurites :P And I have friends
yay for being guy... if ur mad at someone, u just tell it to their face, punch each other, then forget about it in 5 minutes.. yay friends again!

I don't go around punching my friends. I bruise too easy.

Ravie...you don't know me, I wish you wouldn't make assumptions like that. My main point in starting this thread was to let off some steam, not be criticized.

:confusion I was mearly stating my opinion, from what I have read.

Okay, that is fine. Sorry if I sound rude at all, but alot of people judge me in a negative way, and I really am a nice person and I try to be kind. :)

Okay, that is fine. Sorry if I sound rude at all, but alot of people judge me in a negative way, and I really am a nice person and I try to be kind. :)
don't u hate when that happens? u type something, and then someone else thinks ur saying something mean, b/c they read it w/ diff. expression?

Yes, exactly hamlet :) Everyone perceives it all wrong lol and then they think I'm being mean to them when I try to explain. :P

:confusion My social issues and self insecurites are worse then you social issues and self insecurites :P And I have friends
Ravie...you don't know me, I wish you wouldn't make assumptions like that. My main point in starting this thread was to let off some steam, not be criticized.

From what I interpreted, Ravie's post had a hint of sarcasm in it. And I don't want to jump down your throat, but you're doing the exact same thing by saying, "I have social anxiety and no one understands," especially considering it's self-diagnosed.

From what I interpreted, Ravie's post had a hint of sarcasm in it. And I don't want to jump down your throat, but you're doing the exact same thing by saying, "I have social anxiety and no one understands," especially considering it's self-diagnosed.
Actually I did talk to my doc when I went in a few weeks ago for a cold...and he said it is possible that I have a mild SAD...and that he can only prescribe medication if my parents are informed, and when I told him I didnt want them to know, he gave me suggestions on how to prevent anxiety attacks and such. :) So that hasnt really been an issure lately.

::sigh:: I hate to sound like I am complaining or whining, I really am not. I just meant that nobody can possibly fully understand my life unless they've walked in my shoes. :)

I haven't walked in your shoes, but from what you've said, it sounds like I've been where you are.

When I was thirteen, I had no friends, my parents ignored me for the most part, I was depressed constantly, constantly complaining to the people I knew about my problems, yet I never took the initiative to do anything about it...

I'm afraid I must agree with Lefty and Dude on this one.

Oh no, I intend on doing something about it. :) If my parents choose not to listen fine, that is their choice, but I refuse to dwell on it. I am learning all that I can while I am still in school. I intend on finding a decent after school job next year when I am a senior, because I'll be able to leave school at 11 a.m., and I've already started putting money in a savings account to help towards getting out of my parents house when I'm 18. :)

I told him I didnt want them to know
and you complain that they have no idea what's going on in your life.

I'm sorry to be blunt about it, but I feel like it's the only way that has any chance of getting through.

you say your parents don't have to worry about your brothers because they're adults, yet you've repeatedly said that they're crackheads/felons/former felons/whatever. I don't think it's that far-fetched that in a family with only one female child, that the parents would be more likely to be overprotective of her. I'd expect that to be the case.

if you're that unhappy with the way you are, instead of saying so, put that energy into improving yourself. the impression that I get is that you don't want to change- it's easier to blame your parents and call them incompetent and blame everyone else for treating you poorly. you'll only get anywhere if you realize that you have some degree of control over what goes on in your life, and you take control of it.

::sigh:: no no no...somehow my explanations are being interpreted all wrong. Look, thanks everyone for listening and replying, and Dude...up until the past few months, I have done nothing but sulk.....but thanks to a very nice online buddy of mine who was once in my situation, I am beginning to take control. It used to seem impossible, thats why I never attempted it. Perhaps I dont explain my feelings too clearly, either that or I'm just insane :D Note to self: In the future, refrain from confusing the rest of the world. :P

For someone who isn't dwelling on the fact that her parents ignore her, you sure do babble on about it. You even made a whole thread.

Parents tend to treat girls differently then boys. Boys are usually aloud to date younger, swear, and get into trouble. If the family only has one girl, then the girl is usually very protected ( even is she doesn't get that)

Making friend might not be easy, but it's not impossible. People who have had major social problems can make friends, if they put their mind to it.

At least you have parents, even if they do somewhat ignore you. A lot of parents don't listen to their kids all the time or even most of the time. You still have your parents, unlike some of us. I would give anything to have my parents here to even ignore me, but they aren't. I have my adopted dad ( he's great) but not the same.

I had a sister, and my parents were major protective of her. They where even more protective of me, though.

lefty, dude...someone...could you please just close this? :(

My intent on making it was just to let off some steam, not have a bunch of people tell me I have problems. I thought that was the point of "rant", to let out some anger!?

I did not expect this...In the future I shall keep my rants to myself and avoid another thread like this.

Not complaining or whining, or whatever anyone wants to call it, it is just that it doesnt feel very good to have people telling you how you feel, when they do not know you or your mind or feelings.

Anyway, I just ask that a mod close this before it turns into something I do not want. I generally try to avoid conflict with others. :)

I don't see what people mean about you being whiny and babbling on about stuff. A)You're not whining, you're telling people how you feel, and you're saying outright that you're not trying to get people to pity you, B) babbling about something that makes you feel bad is what ranting is. Has anyone checked the name of this forum?

You shouldn't keep rants to yourself, because that makes it all worse. Trust me on that one, I have experience from it.

I haven't been reading this thread (it seemed the appropriate time to close when everything seemed like it was okay and you were gonna pull through. People just have to insult it all...) but I scanned through most of it, and I noticed what you said about friends and such. I'm the geeky kid quite often, but lucky for me, so are one of my friends, another has similar interests, one I've known since 1st grade, and another since 5th, so I don't have the making friends problem. I'm also pretty outgoing, and my school really doesn't judge people as far as looks and such. There isn't even an "in" crowd. However, I can say that I had to move recently (I moved back, was only at the school for three days) and I made one aquaintance in that time. It's difficult, but just start talking to people. It works.

I have a lot of insecurities (abandonment issues since I was a baby,long story, then bunches of other stuff) and believe me, it helps to talk about it. I don't know about anyone else, but I'm always available for a good rant. If I didn't rant to people sometimes, I think I'd explode. :)

I am not insulting I am just telling the true. One can't get things to happen by sitting around complaining about it.

Saying that parents ignore, and then not even telling them about important things.

Just what did you except Queen of Wise? That everyone here was going to run over and pat your head Ohhh there there Queen of Wise such bad bad parents. Your parents seem pretty normal to me, but then again I don't know much about them.

If you think being the 'geeky girl always with the books' is hindering you from becoming friends with people, then change that. You are 16, I would think you could do a personal make-over. And I don't mean drastic either.

My intent on making it was just to let off some steam, not have a bunch of people tell me I have problems.

actually, I think they were trying to tell you that you don't have problems, at least nothing that just about every teenager has dealt with at some level before. I don't really know you, but from what I've read your "problems" can't really be blamed on your parents, only yourself.

If you got some friends you probably wouldn't mind your parents not spending 24/7 with you because then you would have your own life. I know it's easier said than done to make friends, but it is totally possible. I'd rather be friends with someone who doesn't dwell on little problems all the time than someone who does.

There's nothing wrong with letting off steam, but you have to expect people to give their honest oppinion of the situation, whether you want to hear it or not. The truth hurts, but if you really wanted to solve your problem, you would at least consider the things that people are saying. Everyone who has posted in this thread was only trying to help in their own way.

Being "the geeky girl with the books" is not whats keeping me from being happy. I love being a geek. Geeks rock! :D I just havn't found anyone with the same interests as me. My school is full of jerks and preps...I havn't seen or met anyone who even knows what a website is lol :P I'm okay everyone, I only meant to let out some anger, I'm not always like that. Its just stressful, and I dont sit around complaining, I am doing something about it.

This time last year, If you saw me you'd think I was some kind of a nut. Constantly depressed, worried, sick to my stomache.....but then I decided I couldnt do that life anymore. Depression is not easy to get over, but I managed it. I think that counts for something, no? I'm very proud of myself for that. I never thought I would be able to do it. Now I just have to take the next step. :)

I agree with Dan (aka Dude)

I'm the only girl in my family (with 3 bros) and my brothers got away with everything and could do more things than I was allowed. Sadly that is just how it goes. I'm 29 and they still treat me like a 10 year old. So I can totally understand what you are saying. However, if you want to make friends you have to get off the computer and go do something. And you are way to young to be looking for your 'soulmate', so I can understand your parents turning that into a joke. I would think you were joking too.

If you are suffering from depression, you should go see a doctor or couselor. Depression isn't something to mess around with.

(I hope this makes sense.)

I'm not looking for a 'soulmate'....I dont believe in souls :Dheheh No, I'm not suffering from depression, not anymoe. I used to be, but It gets you nowhere, and after a very scary happening I said to myself "NO MORE!" And so now I just have to keep busy and not get myself down...which is why I am online all day and love school :)

I'm not looking for a 'soulmate'....I dont believe in souls :Dheheh


my dreams?....Well for one, my main dream goes against my mothers rules. She forbids me to have anything more then a guy friend...but my hearts deepest desire is to findmy significant other, and I intend to do so, even if it takes years to accomplish.

You say your not trying to find your soulmate, than what do you mean by trying to find your significant other. To me that relates as a soulmate.

I'm not looking for a 'soulmate'....I dont believe in souls :Dheheh No, I'm not suffering from depression, not anymoe. I used to be, but It gets you nowhere, and after a very scary happening I said to myself "NO MORE!" And so now I just have to keep busy and not get myself down...which is why I am online all day and love school :)

I guess my idea of a significant other is different from yours. :) Just merely someone my own age who is lonely as well...that way we would keep each other company and both be happy :) yes I know, alot of the older folks out there are probably thinking that Im just a kid and dont know what I want in life, but I really do know. I've known for years where I want to go in life, and if it takes me forever, I will reach my dreams.

EDIT: If it's an issue of age...I dont really see what age has to do with it. I believe it is about maturity and knowing what you want in life. I know people 20 years old who act like they are 4 years old *cough* my brother *cough* :D

Funny last time I check people just didn't get over Depression :confusion. Don't sound to me like you had any help with this said depression of yours.

I didnt just get over it. It took many months.

Without help, like you said. I still don't see what you are complaining about. It's saturday you could be off trying to find uh friends or something.

I AM NOT COMPLAINING! And actually I can't. My parents are out of town and I have to be home incase one of them them calls.

If it sounds like I am comlpaining, I am not. Sorry that you feel that way, but I am not complaining. sheesh! :P

lefty, dude...someone...could you please just close this? :(



Does this request still stand?

Yes, please Starlet. Thanks very much, I appreciate your understanding. :)