Okay, I am designing a website and I have an exact idea of what I want. I have a pretty knowledgable experience with HTML and am pretty familiar with all of basics and some stuff beyond basics. But I don't know how to do this: I want to make frames all the way around my site(but like, not have to make seperate frames to get the look). Like imagine you had two peices of paper(one on top of the other) and you cut the middle of the top on out leaving like a 1.5 inch border around the bottom one. You can see ideas of this in these websites: www.interstate8.net and www.selectskate.com(click picture to get in and see). Do you need to have a webstie design program or can I do this with HTML? Any help at all would REALLY REALLY be appreciated.

They both seem to be done with IFRAMES.
Do a search in the frames section of this site or forum for further details on creating/using them.

to me it looks like they used a table and put iframes in it. the first one ones like they had three cells in the second row and they put iframes in the second 2. i don't know if this is right but it is something to think about.

I just looked at the part of the site about inline frames.... And I want to know if the square is the inline frame, like if what I wanted to do to my site(read above post) can I make the square big enough to leave like a 1 inch boarder around the inline frame? Because the reason putting seperate framesa all around is a problem is because it gets confusing and so I am trying to figure out how to just put one frame all the way around because I owuld like to add a background image to the frame like in the (www.selectskate.com) webstie metioned above... Can this be done?(well obviously it can but how can it be done?

Actually, I understand how to do inline frames now. Thank you very much. If I have anymore questions I will post the under this thread. Again, thanks a lot.

Acutually I have one more question, I need to know the HTML for my frames, if anyone could take the time to show me that would be appreciated, because right now a lot of things are confusing this iswhat I have for what the main page looks like"

<frameset cols=22%,68%,10% border=0 frameborder=0 framespacing=0>
<frame src="lefthome.htm" name="leftside">
<frame src="test_rightframe.htm" name="rightside">
<frame src="test_right.htm" name="right">
</frameset>

And then each frame has it's own page of HTML... I need to know how to configure the front page so that it's like what I want... Would I do this....?

<iframe src="test_iframe.htm" name="middle"

But then I don't know what to direct the outside too... so that I would be able to like <outside src="test_outside.htm" name="outside" Could someone show me how to do this(if you undertand what I am talking about)

OKay sorry about all the posts but I have been playing around with this and I made the Iframe work, but I still meed to know, what is the tag that will direct what goes into the boarder around the iframe?(mods can delete my previous post to if needed)