ok, I know this is more of a mature topic, so for those of you under 13, you should probably ask your parents if you can look at this thread (just in case)

so, are you for abortions or not? We got into a discussion about this in my journalism class, so let's here too :P

I personally am for them. People who are desperate should be able to have them!! especially teenagers. don't we have enough teen moms? what if you are much too young to have a kid, yo barely knew anything about life?

I have lots of opinions, but I'll let people say their opinions before I overwhelm yo :P :lol:

let's see....abortions.
i think it sort of depends on the circumstances for me...i think if for example if you don't have an abortion you will die, or you're a teenage going-to-be mom and you're not old enough to be able to safely have a child, then i think you should have an abortion. but if you're a like say twenty-year old single, i would say don't have one- there are many, many couples wanting a baby, and adoption is always an option.

but really, think about it. if you have a abortion, you're making a living human spirit never come into this world, and even if he/she's not born yet, he/she's still a life. I read about a woman who had been arrested for murder because she refused to get help for her unborn baby, though she was advised to immeaditely go to the hospital by various doctors and nurses. a life is a life.
so....to me, it always depends on cirumstances. :D that's my view, anyways. i mean, why kill your child when you could give him/her to a couple who can't have a baby that will take wonderful care of him/her?

*finishes talking*

wasn't there a thread like this started already? that's okay though, mayhap they can be merged :D

i think that i would never have one, but i am pro-choice; if someone wants to have an abortion, they should have the right to make that decision for themselves.. personally, i think the procedure should only be made as a last resort, or if the mother's [or child's] life is in eminent danger. but that's just from a moral standpoint. :P

wasn't there a thread like this started already? that's okay though, mayhap they can be merged :D

I think that was only in the 13 + board, and that board got deleted :P

oooooh yeah thanks for reminding me!!! i feel silly now :buckt:

I think that was only in the 13 + board, and that board got deleted :P

it's now called "groovy people" :)

I'm no big fan of abortions. But i'm not totally against it either... I think in some situations you should have that option open. that's all i gotta say, really not in the mood to go into this again :)

Love,
Mirna

Not for or against it, personally I would never have one but I think the option should be there for some cases. It's hard to decide where to draw the line on what situation an abortion could be appropriate for though.

Yeah like most of the others...its dependant on the situation, being for it makes it sound like i think people should have them for fun lol
Im totally 100% pro choice though.

it's now called "groovy people" :)

you mean it's still there??? why wasn't I informed :P

I'm all for abortion, but personally I would never get one unless it was a life or death situation. I mean, the world is already getting over-populated and it abortion was made illegal it'd be even worse. Well, I'm actually in no position to say that because I don't know how many abortions are made each year, but that's the way I look at it. Also, the sort of people who have abortions are usually...erm, you know. Let's just say people who wouldn't make good mothers. The children would grow up under the influence of these people and have a greater chance of not turning out right themselves.

I am 100 percent against abortion.

I'm against it, BUT I can understand why some people have abortions.

you mean it's still there??? why wasn't I informed :P
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I'm against it. There is almost always a way around it, and using it as a form of birth control is just WRONG.

Yes, same here. I don't really like the fact of making this a "leisure" act you know how if you fumble so how it's always there to 'help'. There are some cases which i'd think it's ok if thats the word for it but I still think think they are wrong in some views. So i'm mainly Pro-Life :) In this century now in the US I think there is nothing forcing you to have no protection or not being abstinent. Unless a case of an assualt comes along that's the only thing I can think of that would make you have a child

Well, like I said before, I don't think abortions are a good idea, but I try not to judge anyone who is less scrupules (sp?) about it.
I feel that's something every woman should decide for herself.

However, I do feel there should be support available to women or girls who decide to go ahead with the pregnancy even if it comes at a very inconvenient time in their life. Not forbid them to have abortions, but help them out with stuff like finding a place to live, helping out financially etc., if they decide to have the baby. That way they would face a less difficult decision, having the baby actually becomes an option then.

when ever this commet comes up, i normally say i have "mixed feelings" about it. This is because if i say one side, someone always makes an interesting point causing me to rethink my thinking (if that makes any sense, lol!) or change my mind completely. If i HAD to choose though, i would prob. say pro life (with a few "pre determined" exceptions!)

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ohhhhhh no wonder I couldn't see it :P

I'm prochoice, because even if you get rid of abortion it won't stop. Do you think a coathanger (or backalley abortionist) is safer than a doctor? Most people think it'll cut down on abortion, but think about it-does having prostitution be illegal cut down on prostitution?

I am 100 percent against abortion.
Er..would it kill you to, for once, explain WHY you're for or against something?

yeah, and when they resort to coathangers.... *shudder* more would die because of abortions. instead if just the child "dying" (though I disagree that they were ever alive before birth) the mother does too in her desperation.

yeah, and when they resort to coathangers.... *shudder* more would die because of abortions. instead if just the child "dying" (though I disagree that they were ever alive before birth) the mother does too in her desperation.
Theres a heart beat isnt there? It seems like its alive to me.

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I obviously would never have to chose about my unborn fetus, [well I HOPE I don't have those parts :lol:] but I am prochoice. I think it depends on the situation, but I don't think we should outlaw it. I know this is the liberal in me speaking, but I don't think people should be able to tell you what to do with your unborn fetus.

However, I do think it's weird how abortions aren't murder, but suddenly killing a girl with a fetus is a double murder. hmmm....

Yeah theres a lot of double standards and stuff...i think the problem is they dont really know when to define it as murder, when the fetus is classed as living...cos everyone thinks something different, some thing as soon as its concieved, others think when it has a heartbeat, others when it is fully formed, others when it has a concience, others when its 'able' to be born (as in able to survive outside its mummy).

I just think a woman should have the right to choose, even if i disagree with the reasons or wouldnt dream of doing it myself etc....i still believe in the basic right to choose what happens to your own body.

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yup :lol: I was really bored :lol:

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invited by who?

Lissa i believe. possibly another admin., but Allie is only around when Lissa's gone :D

ah. i see. i think.

I'm pro-choice. I feel that it's not the government's place to decide someone's health (same with HMOs and stuff). I think it should be allowed in cases such as ^^^^, or if the woman's health is in danger, or if there was some other major reason that the woman doesn't want to have the baby (not just "oh, I decided I don't want a kid, I'll get an abortion", but like in the case of ^^^^, where having the baby would not only be a huge inconvenience but could cause psychological problems). I think that decision is up to the mother- if she can demonstrate that there is a valid reason for it, like I said above, she should be able to have an abortion. but it should only be allowed in such cases- "oops" isn't a very good reason... in that case, the woman should have the baby and put it up for adoption if she wouldn't be able to raise it properly- but she should still have the expenses, time, and I'm sure pain of having the baby.

Sebluver, sorry I did not answer your question, I hadn't looked at this thread recently. I belive abortion is wrong because it is the taking of a human life, and that is murder.

Oh, Deude, I know someone who talked to a ^^^^ victim, and she said the abortion was like a second ^^^^.

i think you should be able to have a abortion if it is going to affect your health/life, like if carrying a child could have serious affects on your health, since your body isn't strong enough or something....but just killing your baby because you were careless enough to let yourself get pregnant and you don't want to go through birth, that's just wrong. plenty of people out there wanting a baby...

You know what I think i'm more Pro-Choice now but I do think abortion is wrong in many ways. But the choice of your child should be between yourself or yourself and God (if you believe in God that is). I'm not really strongly supporting either side im kinda in the middle :)

Some pros for pro choice are less illegal abortion clinics whoch worsen the situation too

You know what I think i'm more Pro-Choice now but I do think abortion is wrong in many ways. But the choice of your child should be between yourself or yourself and God (if you believe in God that is). I'm not really strongly supporting either side im kinda in the middle :)I feel a lot like that too. The trouble with this particular issue is the very VERY unfair difference between women and men. Women are still judged by a lot of people for having abortions, but I feel, a man or a boy that walks out on his pregnant girlfriend or wife, is every bit as bad or even worse.
Also, a man has that choice, to simply walk away. A woman does not have a choice to 'simply do something'. Deciding to have an abortion seems to me like an awfully painful thing, but I can see to some extend why some women, especially very young women, just don't see enough support in their lives, and they don't feel they have the choice to go through with the pregnancy either. A 'choice' like that seems heart breaking to me.

If you're a boy, life is easier.

I am against abortion, since there are many people who can't have babies, so why not just put it up for adoption? It'd be better for everyone.

Anywho, I think that there should be a law that states that if the girl is a minor, then she needs parental consent before she is allowed to get an abortion.

Anywho, I think that there should be a law that states that if the girl is a minor, then she needs parental consent before she is allowed to get an abortion.I think there should be a law that an underage girl always decides on that herself.

I also think parents should always support their daughters whatever they decide, but obviously teenagers with babies face a lot of practical problems and in a perfect world, their parents would be there for them.

I used to be totally against abortion because I thought it was wrong... until I had one. Someone on here said that they were against abortion, that there is another way around, and that they understand why some people have them. That is my opinion now. I will not go into detail about what happened to me but I will be glad to share it if anyone would like to know! It's just sort of a complicated situation!

I bet it took a lot of courage to say that here!

Yes that is true :) Thanks for sharing that!

This leads to the means of that women need this choice sometimes. I sorta realize how hard it would be you dont want to kill a child yet you dont want your life to be ruined either. It's really something that you should look deep inside of yourself to decide if it's right or not, so many situations can happen out of this thing. Though I do absolutely hate the idea of it, the other idea of letting people find illegal abortion places is just as bad. It would be nice if they took the time to think about this before they make any drastic measures.

I'm 100% pro-choice. A lot of pro-life people seem to think that pro-choice is the same as pro-abortion. I'm pro-choice and I don't think I'd ever get an abortion. I've never been in that situation before, so I can't say for sure though. And I don't agree with "people should only be allowed to have an abortion if...." I think people should have the choice no matter what, even if it's their own fault and it could have been prevented, but the mother should be sure that abortion is the best choice for her first. I don't think people use abortion as birth contol as much as people are making it seem. Mistakes happen and no form of birth control is 100% (well.. abstinance of course)

I bet it took a lot of courage to say that here!
Assuming you were talking to me... It does take a little bit of courage because frankly, some people just don't understand. You know, I lost friends (i guess they weren't really friends) because of what I did. Yes, there really are heartless people out there who would hate you for a personal choice that they don't understand. Now, that I am "growed up" and have a husband and a daughter, I don't mind sharing my story with those that are curious because it really changed my life. People say that having a baby can change your life forever, so does having an abortion.

I think it's good that someone is sharing that here, because some people seem to have a rather uninformed opinion on the subject.

I always thought of myself as against abortion, but I can understand why people would get them. I guess that I don't think I could take away someone's life. But then again, I don't think I will have an unexpected pregnancy (at least not until I know I'm ready to have a child).

I think only in a very extreme case, for example very severe health problems (and I do mean very severe!), I would consider the option for myself.
My husband and I don't want any children, but if anything should happen unplanned, we would just have to organise our lives around it I guess.

yeah, like if I KNEW I'd die in childbirth, ^^^^ yeah, I'd be first in line for an abortion :P I also think if you're not mature enough to have a child, and you made a mistake (or an abusive boyfriend/girlfriend or just soe random person) I think you should have the option. if not, people will be desperate and do desperate things (the coathangers for example)