Just because it was a christian guild! Why on earth did they do that? I know it is a rule (a stupid one at that) but, still, guilds are places where you find people who share the same interests as you. Oh well, I created a new one, this time with a guild webbie. Here's the link: ABSOLUTELY NO ADVERTISING.
If you are a christian or wanna be, please join!

Because you're not allowed to discuss religion. Makes sense, eh? Religion can be a touchy subject, and they don't want to have to deal with complaints from people who are upset over your guild. I don't think it's a stupid rule, I think it's a sensible one-having your guild be only for one religion, it's like saying you can only join if you're a certain religion.

ah, but christianity isn't a religion, but a relationship. religions are baptism, catholicism, lutheran, that kinda stuff. all 3 of those are christian based, but different religions, u see.

ah, but christianity isn't a religion, but a relationship. religions are baptism, catholicism, lutheran, that kinda stuff. all 3 of those are christian based, but different religions, u see.

yeah that's your belief. i think christianity is a religion and i know many others that do too. but i really don't want to get into this because someone is inevitably going to feel offended, so.. yeah.

if you want to talk to other people with the same "relationship" as you, maybe join a christianity website or forum. or, you can start one of your own. but i can see why public websites with so many visitors from around the world would not allow guilds and such of that sort.

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yeah that's your belief. i think christianity is a religion and i know many others that do too. but i really don't want to get into this because someone is inevitably going to feel offended, so.. yeah.

if you want to talk to other people with the same "relationship" as you, maybe join a christianity website or forum.
I think she means that baptism, catholicism, lutheran are three Christian religions. Therefore, they are all in relation to each other seeing that they are based on Christianity.

hmn. i suppose i'm rather slow, then. :blush:

You agree to rules when you sign up, if they catch you breaking one (stupid rule or not) they are well within their rights to delete the site. *shrug*

Christianity is a religion, it is just that there are many denominations such as Lutheran, Catholicism, Baptist, etc. that belong to it.

Christianity is a religion, it is just that there are many denominations such as Lutheran, Catholicism, Baptist, etc. that belong to it. yes that was my line of thinking exactly. but okay :buckt:

Neopets doesn't want people to get riled up about religion, as people tend to do. I mean, it's a touchy subject and all people have their own beliefs and religions. Having a Christian guild (not anything bad against you) may give other people the thought that you are saying that Christianity is better then the other religions.

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I think it is not great to make a guild based on one religion, because, as mentioned b4, there is MANY different religions, and it might make people feel unwanted. A nice Idea might be to make a guild totally opposite of that, a guild for EVERYONE! lol, kinda lame, but thats okay :)
I am Jewish, and there is more then one religion to Jews (based on the Israel's and the Judah's, correct me if i'm wrong) but I still call Judism one religion, but I suppose you are right. :)

It makes sense that they deleted it. Neopets isnt a religious place and some people may not like it. It does say that you can't do anything that talks about a religion on the rules page. It's good they didnt freeze your neoname too.

I am a christian, though. :idea: I also beleive that it takes away your rights to freedom of religion and speech.

Whatever. If neopets wants to delete your guild, they can delete your guild. You arent paying to play, so it's not like you can stop them. you can boycott neopets if you really feel you were unfairly treated, but i doubt that will do anything.

Whatever you choose to do, I really don't think it will make a difference. :cloud: :princess: :hug::

I don't play neopets but I play other games and online games and there is always a navy guild or a cop guild or a christian guild. I don't see what the problem is, it's like a club, getting people who are in the same thing (job, interests, other..) together to play the same thing.
But if it's against their TOS, you are supposed to respect that.

exactly. and i wasn't breaking one rule. it was a christian guild, but all the christian stuff was on another website that I had created. I advertised it as a christian guild on the boards, but that's not the same as discussing religion. I don't think neopets should have done that.

I can see Neopets point...they're scared of all the stuff that could happen from a Christian site being advertised on their boards, but I think it's also really stupid, coz what happened to freedom of religion...freedom of speech...freedom of thought? It's not like you were advertising a ^^^^ site or something. If it was something not good for little kids, then yeah, they'd be fully justified in taking it down, but a link to a Christian site?

and yeah, I'm a Christian too.

Okay, you have your mind set you shouldn't have had your guild deleted. However, I believe if you listen to what I have to say, what neopets did might be somewhat justified. Oh, and I am a Christian as well. I have NOTHING against your guild.
In the Neopets.com Terms and Conditions, it says:
So that everyone has a good time, you understand and agree that you will not post or send through the site any words, images or links containing or relating to:
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material regarding [b]political[b], social, or religious views or opinions
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pet names, account usernames, store fronts, or any descriptions or names that would be considered inappropriate under our Terms and Conditions
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other information that Neopets deems, in its sole discretion, to be inappropriate for this site
Or, in the long version of the ToC:
You hereby understand and agree that Neopets does not allow Postings that contain:
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religious, political, or social commentary

It clearly says here, that you understand and AGREE that you cannot have anything to do with religion on the Neopets.com site, nor can you provide links to it. Also, in red, it says that The Neopets Team can decide what they think is bad or not. They have that right, and they tell you there. About other things, Neopets slacks off a bit, but for this they are strict, because basically: THEY DON'T WANT TO BE SUED. It's a sad thing when they have to worry about it, but these days everyone is suing everyone else, so you can never be too careful. A lawsuit for a site that is not paid for would be bad news. The suer would have grounds to sue over your guild, and they could be any of the following:
1. They do not want their child to learn about Christianity, Neopets shouldn't be a place for him/her to do so.
2. It is against the Terms and Conditions, if they are willing to let someone slide past that rule, how does someone know they aren't going to find a guild about *** next? (There are cases where you can see ***ual content around the site, made by users, that TNT does not get rid of, so this case might win, because there are grounds for it).
I could go on and on (you can get very creative when suing), but I wont. I'll simply finish by saying I'm sorry your guild got deleted; perhaps you could make one at a different Virtual Pet site, as Neopets doesn't allow them. I hope you kept all your codes and such; I would hate to lose mine. Next time you make a guild, mayhap you could save it to your own computer in case something happens and you lose it.

when I was really into neopets I was in a christian guild... and it got deleted 4 times. I know you are not doing anything wrong by it. And they should let people have christian/jew/ect. guilds because that is what a guild is... where people can connect with their opinions. But, it is against the rules. And if they say it is wrong you shouldn't do it... or you might get your account deleted and I am sure you will not like that.

ah, but christianity isn't a religion, but a relationship. religions are baptism, catholicism, lutheran, that kinda stuff. all 3 of those are christian based, but different religions, u see.

Technically, I think those are denominations. See, I'm Christian, but I don't have a particular denomination. ;)

I don't think there's anything at all wrong with having a Christian guild. But, if they say don't, then don't. If you don't like it, you don't have to have a guild.

First off, I would like to point out that I am a Christian (though without denomination) and used to be obsessed with Neopets, though I have quit in turn for playing ZetaPets. I have to say that, though I can see where you are coming from, it was wrong to post it in the first place. In my opinion you should be able to have a Christian guild, but it does say quite clearly in a TOS that you agreed to that you are not to have anything to do with religion posted. For a site like Neopets it's pretty much neccessary for that to be, as they cannot afford to be sued. It is sad that people are always saying that we should respect other people's religions, yet when we proudly display our own it is frowned and sued upon, but that's the way it is. By putting your guild up again, you are simply giving Neopets more reason to take it down, and possibly reason to freeze you. If you want a Christian guild that bad, I suggest you find another virtual pet site.

Because you're not allowed to discuss religion. Makes sense, eh? Religion can be a touchy subject, and they don't want to have to deal with complaints from people who are upset over your guild. I don't think it's a stupid rule, I think it's a sensible one-having your guild be only for one religion, it's like saying you can only join if you're a certain religion.

then they may as well stop using guilds, cuz its like making a hp guild and saying that u can only join if ur an hp fan, its no different