ie adds an extra grey space after each li tag in this example http://css.maxdesign.com.au/listamatic/vertical09.htm

how could I change the css so that it doesn't add that extra grey space?

To see it as it really should be, please view the above page in firefox

in your menu code, take out all the spaces where you have the UL listed, take ALL of them out, like it's on one big line. I tested it and it looks like it has to be on one straight line, no spaces for that grey to go away

man, thanks alot, what a major flaw in ie... :)

no prob...yeah and it drives people crazy!