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westernrider
01-21-2004, 01:32 AM
Are their (edit I mean there... me and my grammer :P) others watch The State Of Union address or am I just a nerd :buckt:

I sorta like watching them... even if they are normally really long :buckt:

Lissa
01-21-2004, 01:33 AM
Watching....

Liz
01-21-2004, 01:36 AM
I'm watching. It's on 5 of our 6 channels. My brother was like 'which channel comes in with the most quality...'

Dude128
01-21-2004, 01:45 AM
I didn't watch it/am not watching it (see, I don't even know when it's over) :P

I can't stand listening to Bush speak for more than a minute or two...

I was looking in the TV listings the yesterday, and for 9 pm, a whole lot of channels have it :P all the major networks have it, plus a bunch of the cable news networks. unfortunately I get most of those channels, so I'm not even attempting to watch TV right now :P

Owlie42
01-21-2004, 01:47 AM
I'm watching. And playing my favorite Monty Python-inspired game: Spot the Loony.

Ravie
01-21-2004, 01:48 AM
Nope we have The Dark Crystal on here. :lol:

westernrider
01-21-2004, 01:51 AM
:lol:

*starts to fall asleep*

I watching it and I am on the computer at the same time and it is really rather boring now that I think of it...

awww... I really do not think bush is THAT bad

*waits to see how many comments I get saying that I am stupid to like bush and that he looks like a drunk monkey and that I only like him because I am from Texas*

:lol: I am used to people replying like that... whenever I talk about Bush that is what happens... :D

Valkyrie
01-21-2004, 01:52 AM
Im not watching it, but my parents are. I'll ask them about it later. :P

Rosey
01-21-2004, 02:05 AM
oh was that today?? oh well!

i cant stand listening either..he puts me to sleep

Arc Angel
01-21-2004, 02:23 AM
Nope, I was gone. Otherwise I would've torn myself away from the computer for a bit to watch. :P

Midnight2828
01-21-2004, 09:46 PM
OI...I was watching American Idol, and was waiting to see what was next on FOX, and then that came on, and I think I fell asleep, but got up right when it was getting over to do homework...

On the radio this morning they were like, here let's play a clip of it, It's still going on! It was pretty funny because he would say like 3 words, and then everyone would clap. Come on, he's not that interesting! :idea:

SizzZzlinhair
01-21-2004, 09:50 PM
I started watching it, but I got bored and switched it to American Idol :lol:

kicker91
01-21-2004, 10:04 PM
I don't care. when something interesting happens, I'll watch.

sisqoluv
01-21-2004, 11:59 PM
Are their (edit I mean there... me and my grammer :P) others watch The State Of Union address or am I just a nerd :buckt:

I sorta like watching them... even if they are normally really long :buckt:

I can't stand seeing Bush's face or reading the garbage his writers did for him, so no :D I've watched them before, but I got tired of him. Now, if it was Clinton up there, that's a different story.

Ayosu_Ling
01-22-2004, 01:04 AM
I can't stand listening to Bush speak for more than a minute or two..

Yeah, me neither, but that's only because you can tell when he's saying stuff just to bring more votes in..

Well, I wanted to see it---sort of---just to see who's still in the race: i know that Carol Mosely dropped out...but...I don't really care about the race, only the outcome.

sebluver
01-22-2004, 01:11 AM
<sarcasm>
I loved how he said he'd teach abstinence-oh yeah, that's gonna be real handy. We know how to not do it (duh), why not teach us how to do it safely?

And it's great he's preserving marriage-for hetero^^^uals. God forbid that other people have that right.
</sarcasm>

He also didn't really seem to understand seperation of church and state-I mean, going all out and giving billions of dollars to religious organizations is kind of crossing that line.

Did anyone notice that weird little foot thing he did every time the cameras filmed behind the pedestal? It was starting to weird me out.

Ayosu_Ling
01-22-2004, 01:40 AM
He also didn't really seem to understand seperation of church and state-I mean, going all out and giving billions of dollars to religious organizations is kind of crossing that line.
If you think that's crossing the line, what about Al Sharpton??!

...I don't like how Bush thinks that homose.xuals can "BE together" but not be "married". That's just...shallow...

LesPaul59
01-22-2004, 02:10 AM
yeah i don't like his anti ^^^^^^^ual marriage deal....

Course I missed it. I hate you midterms. Arg.

Owlie42
01-23-2004, 01:49 AM
I can't stand seeing Bush's face or reading the garbage his writers did for him

I could write a better speech than that. and I'm 16.

Dude128
01-23-2004, 03:25 AM
anyone een to http://www.selectsmart.com? they have a presidential candidate selector- my best match was "green party candidate", followed by Dean and then Sharpton (! :P). Bush was my very last match, at a whopping 9% I think :P

I still haven't figured out how conservatives can think that teaching abstinence can work. telling people not to do it won't make people not want to- it's a natural thing, so why not teach safety? that's like not teaching first aid because they instead tell people not to get injured.

oh, and why should ^^^^^^^uals be allowed to marry? that one guy sitting in the oval office thinks it's "wrong", and he must be able to make that decision, right? if he doesn't want gay marriage, he shouldn't have one. it's not the federal government's job to tell people that they can't do certain things because some people think it's immoral. same goes for abortion- you're not in that situation, and if you don't think it's right, don't have one, but give others the right to do what they want (within reason, of course).

Owlie42
01-23-2004, 07:01 PM
My best match on that selector was "your ideal theoretical candidate"...Then Clark, then Dean, then Sharpton. Bush was last on my list...suprise.

sisqoluv
01-23-2004, 10:24 PM
I could write a better speech than that. and I'm 16.

If you're going to pay someone to write for you, make sure it's worth your money (not you; Bush :D).


anyone een to http://www.selectsmart.com? they have a presidential candidate selector- my best match was "green party candidate", followed by Dean and then Sharpton (! :P). Bush was my very last match, at a whopping 9% I think :P

I found a site like that yesterday, but it was a different URL.

oh, and why should ^^^^^^^uals be allowed to marry? that one guy sitting in the oval office thinks it's "wrong", and he must be able to make that decision, right? if he doesn't want gay marriage, he shouldn't have one. it's not the federal government's job to tell people that they can't do certain things because some people think it's immoral. same goes for abortion- you're not in that situation, and if you don't think it's right, don't have one, but give others the right to do what they want (within reason, of course).


I'm for gay rights, but not abortion (that's what narrowed my results). I think I'm -2.42 or something on a site that measures where you stand. I don't think it's moral to punch someone in the dark, but I'm not going to do it, so I guess I shouldn't complain about someone else who (in their mind) thinks it's right. What's within "reason" is all a matter of opinion.

weird girl
01-23-2004, 10:57 PM
I got "my ideal theoretical candidate" at 100%... and after that I got "green party candidate" at 50 something percent... and after that I got Howard Dean at 51%... I have a bad feeling that when I turn 18 I'm gonna have an impossible time finding a good candidate to vote for... I guess if that happens, I'll write myself in :lol:!

<ramble> Holy cow 35% for socialist candidate?!?! Scary. </ramble>

westernrider
01-23-2004, 11:02 PM
lol... I am the only one who likes bush...:lol:

it is ok to have different opinions of course but I hate it when little 4th graders are running around saying "Bush stinks! Bush stinks! Bush stinks! when they have probably never read the news or watched the news... all they do is listen to their parents and then they think they know everything on the subject :s

weird girl
01-23-2004, 11:30 PM
Originally posted by westernrider
lol... I am the only one who likes bush...:lol:

Hey I like Bush... a little bit. On the site I got 40 something percent for him. He'll never make as good a candidate as me though! If only I was 35.... :lolol: Just kidding.

Well okay, let me put it this way: he's the least worst (is that how you say it?) of the candidates.....

I had a scary thought... watch as someone else other than Bush becomes president, and he turns out to be a HORRIBLE president and then we'll all be saying "Waaahaaahaaa! We want Bush back!" I'm not saying that that actually will happen, but it could :lol:

sebluver
01-24-2004, 12:52 AM
I had a scary thought... watch as someone else other than Bush becomes president, and he turns out to be a HORRIBLE president and then we'll all be saying "Waaahaaahaaa! We want Bush back!"
You took my expression of joy and turned it into an expression of sadness. :confusion

They better not renew the Patriot Act. It's a serious invasion of privacy-a government official could come into your house, take your computer, lamp, TV, and radio (other stuff too, of course), and leave. The best part is you couldn't do a thing about it; it's perfectly legal for them to do that.

I'm actually kind of leaning towards Dean, but every time I say this my mum has this annoying habit of saying, "Well..so am I..but I don't know.." and then goes off on a tangent about how she doesn't like Edwards, or something like that.

weird girl
01-24-2004, 01:10 AM
You took my expression of joy and turned it into an expression of sadness. :confusion

<confused> Huh? I'm having a blonde moment, sorry. </confused>

They better not renew the Patriot Act. It's a serious invasion of privacy-a government official could come into your house, take your computer, lamp, TV, and radio (other stuff too, of course), and leave. The best part is you couldn't do a thing about it; it's perfectly legal for them to do that.
Let's hope they don't. That would be an absolutely awful thing. *Looks for the (I think it's 4th?) amendment of the Constituion.*

Owlie42
01-24-2004, 01:46 AM
Let's hope they don't. That would be an absolutely awful thing. *Looks for the (I think it's 4th?) amendment of the Constituion.*

Yeah. It's the 4th.

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Well, now that George has suspended the constitution...

westernrider
01-24-2004, 01:50 AM
I just really think that Bush was elected at a really bad time... he has had to do serious things... and yes he has said many stupid things... but now every one thinks he is a idiotic monkey when he is not. I can not beleive people have said they think he started the war just to make him more popular...

I really do not know who I want to be the next president... I have very mixed feelings at the moment but then again I can not vote all the same :D

sebluver
01-24-2004, 01:59 AM
I just really think that Bush was elected at a really bad time... he has had to do serious things... and yes he has said many stupid things... but now every one thinks he is a idiotic monkey when he is not. I can not beleive people have said they think he started the war just to make him more popular...
"Let's go invade a country because they have an evil dictator!" I hate to break it to you, but alot of countries have evil dictators. The funny thing is that most of those countries don't have oil, but Iraq does. Now that might be a coincidence, but it's kind of a scary one. And he didn't get elected at a bad time, the bad time happened after he was elected. He should have worked on that situation, not gone to war with a country that had nothing to do with the 9/11 attacks. And even if he didn't just go to war to become popular, it's kind of funny how he got an instant boost in popularity when we went to war.

It's almost as funny as the fact that we're $5 trillion dollars in debt, and yet we can "afford" to spend $1 trillion dollars to go to war.

I'm gonna move to Canada if it gets any worse. I'll hitch hike if I have to.

Owlie42
01-24-2004, 02:00 AM
It stands to reason. I mean, how many other world rulers/leaders in history have started wars to detract from domestic issues?

sisqoluv
01-24-2004, 02:30 AM
I just really think that Bush was elected at a really bad time... he has had to do serious things... and yes he has said many stupid things... but now every one thinks he is a idiotic monkey when he is not. I can not beleive people have said they think he started the war just to make him more popular...

I really do not know who I want to be the next president... I have very mixed feelings at the moment but then again I can not vote all the same :D

There was an article recently about someone who formerly worked for Bush. He claims that Bush was looking for a way to attack Iraq BEFORE 9/11... Meaning 9/11 was the answer. Looking back at all the lies, I can believe that. It's one thing to get elected when the econmy is bad, but it's another thing to help the decline. He will go down in history, but not for a good reason. Trust me.

Ayosu_Ling
01-25-2004, 02:07 AM
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I have a question: did Nader drop out of the race? was he ever in the 2004 race? hmm..

Lissa
01-25-2004, 02:16 AM
anyone een to http://www.selectsmart.com? they have a presidential candidate selector- my best match was "green party candidate",
These are my results:

1. Your ideal theoretical candidate. (100%)
2. Bush, President George W. - Republican (56%)
3. Kerry, Senator John, MA - Democrat (55%)
4. Edwards, Senator John, NC - Democrat (55%)
5. Dean, Gov. Howard, VT - Democrat (47%)
6. Clark, Retired General Wesley K., AR - Democrat (45%)
7. Lieberman, Senator Joe, CT - Democrat (44%)
8. Kucinich, Rep. Dennis, OH - Democrat (43%)
9. Sharpton, Reverend Al - Democrat (40%)
10. Libertarian Candidate (20%)
11. Phillips, Howard - Constitution (17%)

Ayosu_Ling
01-25-2004, 02:19 AM
It's almost as funny as the fact that we're $5 trillion dollars in debt, and yet we can "afford" to spend $1 trillion dollars to go to war.
That's a good aspect to look at. Where is the money coming from? ---For some reason, I don't think that Cheney would use his money from Halliburton... *slaps forehead*

sebluver
01-25-2004, 02:22 AM
I got Howard Dean as my ideal candidate. Woo, Dean. I keep expecting my mum to come in and say, "Well, I don't know.." :lol:

You'd be surprised what a person with an earache thinks is humorous. :P

westernrider
01-25-2004, 03:17 AM
There was an article recently about someone who formerly worked for Bush. He claims that Bush was looking for a way to attack Iraq BEFORE 9/11... Meaning 9/11 was the answer. Looking back at all the lies, I can believe that. It's one thing to get elected when the econmy is bad, but it's another thing to help the decline. He will go down in history, but not for a good reason. Trust me.


hmmm well the paper says the econmy (sp?) is starting to slowly go up now... and no, I do not think he will be put down in history as a bad president... IF he gets re-elected... which I highly doubt even though I like him... I definetly think things will be different because of different problems in the U.S. but I do agree on some things... I know he has done some stupid things... all I say if I do not think he is as bad as people think.

Dude128
01-25-2004, 03:31 AM
I just took it again, and my results changed a bit... I was kind of surprised to see "socialist candidate" listed, especially so high :P and Bush moved up a spot...

1. Your ideal theoretical candidate. (100%)
2. Green Party Candidate (72%)
3. Socialist Candidate (64%)
4. Dean, Gov. Howard, VT - Democrat (63%)
5. Sharpton, Reverend Al - Democrat (63%)
6. Clark, Retired General Wesley K., AR - Democrat (62%)
7. Kucinich, Rep. Dennis, OH - Democrat (59%)
8. Moseley-Braun, Former Senator Carol, IL - Democrat (59%)
9. Gephardt, Rep. ^^^^, MO - Democrat (56%)
10. Edwards, Senator John, NC - Democrat (54%)
11. Kerry, Senator John, MA - Democrat (52%)
12. Libertarian Candidate (49%)
13. LaRouche, Lyndon H. Jr. - Democrat (35%)
14. Lieberman, Senator Joe, CT - Democrat (32%)
15. Phillips, Howard - Constitution (24%)
16. Bush, President George W. - Republican (16%)
17. Hagelin, Dr. John - Natural Law (12%)

Ayosu_Ling
01-25-2004, 07:02 PM
Originally Posted by sisqoluv
There was an article recently about someone who formerly worked for Bush. He claims that Bush was looking for a way to attack Iraq BEFORE 9/11... Meaning 9/11 was the answer. Looking back at all the lies, I can believe that. It's one thing to get elected when the econmy is bad, but it's another thing to help the decline. He will go down in history, but not for a good reason. Trust me.
I heard that only like 10 days after Bush got into office he brought up the name 'Saddam Hussein'. I don't think he wanted to invade Iraq because Saddam's an evil dictator. I mean, yeah, he was but how many evil dictators are on earth? Are we going to bomb and invade every country who has to deal with unfair dictatorship? ---I think the only reason Hussein's name came out of the "blue" was because Hussein ordered the assasination of George W.'s "daddy".

Owlie42
01-26-2004, 12:15 AM
That's a good aspect to look at. Where is the money coming from? ---For some reason, I don't think that Cheney would use his money from Halliburton... *slaps forehead*

Taxpayers, of course. Middle-class taxpayers.

sisqoluv
01-26-2004, 01:11 AM
I heard that only like 10 days after Bush got into office he brought up the name 'Saddam Hussein'. I don't think he wanted to invade Iraq because Saddam's an evil dictator. I mean, yeah, he was but how many evil dictators are on earth? Are we going to bomb and invade every country who has to deal with unfair dictatorship? ---I think the only reason Hussein's name came out of the "blue" was because Hussein ordered the assasination of George W.'s "daddy".

Yep. Who doesn't have weapons of mass destruction these days? Shouldn't we go after a ton of other people then? Including ourselves? Bush is a liar, and I can't stand him. It's one thing for a president to lie about cheating on his wife, but it's another for him to lie about sending people to die and kill others. If it has to do with his daddy, it could be because he wants to outshine him?


Taxpayers, of course. Middle-class taxpayers.

I just hope I never hear him talking about tax "breaks", because that's impossible with the way he spent money. If he does promise it, it's another lie.