It doesn't seem like I've made 200 posts since having gotten a avatar at 500 when you actualy had to work for them. I think the leval should be at atleast 50 so 1 time posters don't have av's. Everyone seems to have a lot more posts. I don't remember bubblegummy and seb having in the 1000's. I guess that's what happens when you miss 3 weeks. Yet somehow I still have an average daily post at 2.82 I'm sure plenty of people are higher than that but it's fine with me.

You know your here because you like it when you get 500 posts and keep coming back. When you got to 500 or 1000 whatever it was before when you got your avatar did that occur to you?

I think that when people have had their avatars for a month or two and stay after they don't care about them anymore, they really care about the forum and the people etc..

Yes, it's fun helping people. I also have one person (not on this forum. I know them from where I live.) Who pays me to make his site, but this is nice. It makes you feel good to know you helped someone.

Yes, it's fun helping people. I also have one person (not on this forum. I know them from where I live.) Who pays me to make his site, but this is nice. It makes you feel good to know you helped someone.
I have that too, occasionally, that I get paid to do someone's website. However, what makes me feel good is mostly the paycheck, not so much the helping part. In fact, when one client did not pay me after the site was done, even though he kept promising to wire the money, I took his site down and replaced the index page with a list of hours I spent doing his website, and the amount of money he still owed me.
Guess I'd make a lousy samaritan :lol:

...when one client did not pay me after the site was done, even though he kept promising to wire the money, I took his site down and replaced the index page with a list of hours I spent doing his website, and the amount of money he still owed me.
I would do that, aside from the fact my dad is my employer :lol:

:lol:
I think that when people have had their avatars for a month or two and stay after they don't care about them anymore, they really care about the forum and the people etc..
:D :)

I have that too, occasionally, that I get paid to do someone's website. However, what makes me feel good is mostly the paycheck, not so much the helping part. In fact, when one client did not pay me after the site was done, even though he kept promising to wire the money, I took his site down and replaced the index page with a list of hours I spent doing his website, and the amount of money he still owed me.
Guess I'd make a lousy samaritan :lol:

Right. I made the persons website. If they miss my paycheck, they're getting it realy cheap $75 to origanaly make the site and $50 a year to maintian it. I just won't make any edits, not sure if I would take it down though. When they weren't paying me my $75 to make the site I was thinking about it.

On Lissa explains though pay isn't expected to your just helping to be nice.

...which makes me happy even though I don't help that much:P but when I do it makes me feel, useful:P

On Lissa explains though pay isn't expected to your just helping to be nice.True, but that works both ways, I might be able to help out a little (though, for a Flash moderator, I sometimes feel I know surprisingly little about Flash), but then I may get help too, if I have questions. Plus it's just a nice forum to visit.

It's fun helping to be nice :p
I have an av now :hug: billy picture :lol:
I know that's not the pint but they're fun :p
And now I can show off my art! *skips around*

I have that too, occasionally, that I get paid to do someone's website. However, what makes me feel good is mostly the paycheck, not so much the helping part. In fact, when one client did not pay me after the site was done, even though he kept promising to wire the money, I took his site down and replaced the index page with a list of hours I spent doing his website, and the amount of money he still owed me.
Guess I'd make a lousy samaritan :lol:

HAHA! That guy deserved it though. Did he end up paying you after he saw the hours?

I have that too, occasionally, that I get paid to do someone's website. However, what makes me feel good is mostly the paycheck, not so much the helping part. In fact, when one client did not pay me after the site was done, even though he kept promising to wire the money, I took his site down and replaced the index page with a list of hours I spent doing his website, and the amount of money he still owed me.
Guess I'd make a lousy samaritan :lol:

LOL! You should have put one of those countdown scripts with the amount of time he had left to pay you :P I'm afraid of charging people to do websites due to the fear of them not liking it. I used to do websites for free years ago, but I never have time. However, when I go off to college, I may do that to make extra money in my spare time. Did you ever get paid?

I don't remember bubblegummy and seb having in the 1000's.
I've had 1000 posts for a while now. And Caz has had 1000 posts since before you joined, I think. It has nothing to do with you missing 3 weeks, really.

well, this particular guy was quite a nuissance to work with. He knew nothing about websites, only that he had to have one, so I said: did you register a domain name? (for he already had flyers made with his URL) and he was actually convinced he didn't need to register anything, because the URL was the name of his shop...
I also tried to explain to him that you can't put 70 articles WITH pics on one page, for that will make it too slow. He never grasped that.
He thought that all he had to do was give me the job, and I'd do the rest. He wasn't very good supplying me the info I needed to actually make a website to sell his stuff.
So I got soooooooo annoyed in the end. Then we had agreed to a certain amount of $$ for a certain amount of hours work, but it was much more work for he had initially told me there would only be 5 pages on the site, but there were like 20, and I had to SCAN all the pictures and edit them etc., whereas beforehand he had told me that he would supply them, all ready for me to put on the website.
So it was a LOT of work, but I still did it for the originally negotiated price, because by then it was pretty obvious to me that he was such a *unpleasant word* that he wouldn't pay more anyway.
So when he didn't even want to pay that amount, I waited two weeks (asking him repeatedly to pay the money), before removing his index page. I was pretty confident he would not know what to do to restore it anyway, and I was right.

That same year I did someone else's website, who happened to be very nice to work with, he always gave me all the info I needed to do my job, he had enough insight to know roughly how much work stuff is, and he always paid me straight away. Now for him, I did several hours of work I did not charge him for, if I felt that it took longer than needed because of my inexperience.
So for a nice client, I can be nice, but for someone I grow to dislike and who's hard to work with, I can be quite annoying. The funniest thing about the *insert evil word here*, is that when I changed that index page, I got a call from his assistant, who said, over and over again, "do you realise how that will look to his customers when they visit his website?" - uhm... yeah, that was the point...!
And eventually she asked me to change it back, now that he promised to pay straight away... I said I'd change it to 'under construction', and I'd change it back as soon as I had the money.
I had the money within two days hehe.

:lol:

Guess it makes you feel powerful, huh?

On Lissa explains though pay isn't expected to your just helping to be nice.
eh? what? no pay? hmmm... thought that cheque in the mail was taking a looong time. :D

Haha, something gives me the feeling that Marianne isn't exactly in the season of giving, she's more concerned with receiving :P .

I felt like clapping out loud at the end of your story, Marianne! You rock :lol:

All of this making websites for people...this reminds me. My swim coach asked me if I would make a website for my swim team, and so I made the website. Now, my coach who knows absolutely nothing about HTML or anything at all about website building and maintance, and he says he wants to run it, and that I'm not allowed to anything except check it every two months. He got the URL registered, however the site hasn't been moved to the place where he registered the URL, but I'm just counting the seconds till he comes to his sense... :rolleyes:...it'll be in ruins before he can do anything...heh... ;p

Glad you found the story entertaining!
My mum at the time said I was being too cruel though, she said things like: "so what if you don't get paid". She would have been a very good samartithan hehe.
There was a little more to the story actually,
before I started on his website, he was talking about after it was done, how he would need me to maintain it for him, and how he probably wanted it translated once, and I agreed. But of course after my actions, he no longer wanted me to work for him, and he decided his assistant was going to do the rest. That suited me fine, for I didn't want him as a client either.
Then he asked me to teach her HTML.
I had a job, and my university course etc., and I didn't have the time to teach her, but I offered to write a manual for her, I find that that's less time consuming anyway. He said great, do it today.
I made the manual, and then charged him about $14 for each hour I spent on it (without telling him I had actually made it already, I told him it would cost that much to have it done). He refused to pay, but every now and again, asked me to write the manual for free :lol:
His assistant is a relative of mine, that's how I knew this client in the first place, and I happen to know that she had a LOT of trouble learning HTML.
There was a flash file with a lot of code that was the sitemap on the left, she removed that and inserted text links in the end because she couldn't figure out Flash hehehe.
It took her over 8 months to even get that far. So amusing :D
The manual is still sitting in my drawer, as far as I'm concerned, it can stay there forever!

:lol: *applause* :lol:

Heh, that's quite the story. But it makes me scared to go into the web designing business to know there are people like that. Actually, there's a music program I have whose website is so unprofessional-looking I think I could even do a better job with it while keeping the same setup. So I was just thinking of contacting them and showing them my idea, in exchange for the advanced version of their program instead of getting paid or whatever. Do you think I have any chance with it at all?

I have had some pretty annoying people that I have helped... it drives me mad!

ME: well you sould try designing a basic picture and then add DIV layers on top
THEM: well hows du I du that
ME: you need a image program
THEM: well wheres du I get tha?
ME: you can buy them or download them
THEM: well I dun wanna do tha... will u mak me 1?
ME: sure
(so I make him the picture and use my own bandwidth for it)
THEM: thanxs!
ME: cool... now you can put the DIV layer on
THEM: well how du I du that?
ME: I will help
(so I align them all with the picture and in the layers I write TEXT TEXT TEXT... LINKS LINKS LINKS so he will know... apparently he didn't)
THEM: what is all the TEXT TEXT TEXT stuff 4?
ME: That is were you write the stuff you want in it
THEM: well how du I du tha?
ME: you remove the TEXT and write what you want there
THEM: well how du I du that?

after that I just left him alone I couldn't take it anymore! He just seemed totally clueless. I was trying to help out but after a while enough is enough... by the way thoes are not the exact words it was just basicly what it was like... it is ok to use some short cuts like LEIA and LOL... but I hate it when people put all this gibberish

I luv u cause ya are da 1 tha help me u no wha I be sayin?

stuff like that :lol: